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		<title>By: Wyatt Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/17/was-jesus-conservative-or-liberal/#comment-59876</link>
		<dc:creator>Wyatt Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reposted this on facebook because I agree with just about every word...and I&#039;m a Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reposted this on facebook because I agree with just about every word&#8230;and I&#8217;m a Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/17/was-jesus-conservative-or-liberal/#comment-28342</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 14:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like you meant to write &quot;gun toting&quot;. Totting is not a word, but perhaps could be used to refer to eating tater tots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like you meant to write &#8220;gun toting&#8221;. Totting is not a word, but perhaps could be used to refer to eating tater tots.</p>
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		<title>By: anti_supernaturalist</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/17/was-jesus-conservative-or-liberal/#comment-27453</link>
		<dc:creator>anti_supernaturalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Jesus/Christ, revenge as recycled fable &amp; recycled myth&lt;/b&gt;

• Before there were any xians, or members of Jesus cults within judaism -- hellenistic jewish writers constructed texts which were intentionally what we would call freedom-fighter (or rebel) propaganda. The Book of Daniel with its three resisters of royal oppression -- and Judith, always depicted cutting off the head of enemy general, Holofernes, are complete fiction. 

Putting a human face on an ideology is nothing new. We&#039;ve heard of Daniel in the lions’ den and Judith with her sword dripping blood— without being aware of the ancient purposes of their creators.  Like Judith the Jesus persona belongs on the level of a revenge character of cultural fable.

• Calling the Jesus figure a mythological being already gives the later divinized persona too much weight. The divinized Christ could not arise within judaism and remain canonical. Certainly not the loquacious, mangled Logos, divine principle stolen from Stoicism, which appears in mythic hype (the gospel) attributed to “John.”

Jesus transubstantiated as the Christ persona, a concoction brewed up by Saul/Paul of Tarsus, belongs to hellenistic savior god mythology, perhaps an anti-Isis. But with a radical jewish twist. Csomic revenge motif was stolen from first Enoch, a hellenistic jewish apocalyptic jeremiad of 1st Century BCE, known to early Jesus cult members.

• Jesus was a propaganda persona, a constructed &quot;martyr&quot; who was able to “get up and move” out of a fable context. His persona, his role became open to vast mythic reinterpretation. The west still experiences cultural distortion and devastation from the death impulse which created the ‘Christ of faith’.

the anti_supernaturalist</description>
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<p>• Before there were any xians, or members of Jesus cults within judaism &#8212; hellenistic jewish writers constructed texts which were intentionally what we would call freedom-fighter (or rebel) propaganda. The Book of Daniel with its three resisters of royal oppression &#8212; and Judith, always depicted cutting off the head of enemy general, Holofernes, are complete fiction. </p>
<p>Putting a human face on an ideology is nothing new. We&#8217;ve heard of Daniel in the lions’ den and Judith with her sword dripping blood— without being aware of the ancient purposes of their creators.  Like Judith the Jesus persona belongs on the level of a revenge character of cultural fable.</p>
<p>• Calling the Jesus figure a mythological being already gives the later divinized persona too much weight. The divinized Christ could not arise within judaism and remain canonical. Certainly not the loquacious, mangled Logos, divine principle stolen from Stoicism, which appears in mythic hype (the gospel) attributed to “John.”</p>
<p>Jesus transubstantiated as the Christ persona, a concoction brewed up by Saul/Paul of Tarsus, belongs to hellenistic savior god mythology, perhaps an anti-Isis. But with a radical jewish twist. Csomic revenge motif was stolen from first Enoch, a hellenistic jewish apocalyptic jeremiad of 1st Century BCE, known to early Jesus cult members.</p>
<p>• Jesus was a propaganda persona, a constructed &#8220;martyr&#8221; who was able to “get up and move” out of a fable context. His persona, his role became open to vast mythic reinterpretation. The west still experiences cultural distortion and devastation from the death impulse which created the ‘Christ of faith’.</p>
<p>the anti_supernaturalist</p>
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		<title>By: Jackweline</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/17/was-jesus-conservative-or-liberal/#comment-27091</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackweline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original word used for the &#039;whale&#039; or &#039;fish&#039; was neither &#039;whale&#039; nor &#039;fish&#039;. The animal classification system you refer to was created thousands of years later.

Why would anyone with even half a brain think that either reflects on the other? The biblical literalists are stupid to say that the animal classification system is wrong, you are equally as stupid &lt;b&gt;Madscientist&lt;/b&gt; to suggest that this indicates God couldn&#039;t tell a mammal from a fish. With a helping of, come-on, they&#039;re biblical literalists, of course they&#039;re stupid, what&#039;s your excuse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original word used for the &#8216;whale&#8217; or &#8216;fish&#8217; was neither &#8216;whale&#8217; nor &#8216;fish&#8217;. The animal classification system you refer to was created thousands of years later.</p>
<p>Why would anyone with even half a brain think that either reflects on the other? The biblical literalists are stupid to say that the animal classification system is wrong, you are equally as stupid <b>Madscientist</b> to suggest that this indicates God couldn&#8217;t tell a mammal from a fish. With a helping of, come-on, they&#8217;re biblical literalists, of course they&#8217;re stupid, what&#8217;s your excuse?</p>
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		<title>By: Jackweline</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/17/was-jesus-conservative-or-liberal/#comment-27089</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackweline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re a mental disorder</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re a mental disorder</p>
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		<title>By: Jackweline</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/17/was-jesus-conservative-or-liberal/#comment-27088</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackweline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is he a friend of man friday?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is he a friend of man friday?</p>
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		<title>By: tmac57</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/17/was-jesus-conservative-or-liberal/#comment-25435</link>
		<dc:creator>tmac57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Shermer-&quot;I am a fiscal conservative and a social liberal.&quot;  From his &#039;What I Believe-Science &amp; the Power of Humanity&#039; article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Shermer-&#8221;I am a fiscal conservative and a social liberal.&#8221;  From his &#8216;What I Believe-Science &amp; the Power of Humanity&#8217; article.</p>
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		<title>By: NightHiker</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/17/was-jesus-conservative-or-liberal/#comment-25434</link>
		<dc:creator>NightHiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ad hominem and appeal to authority - hey, keep it up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ad hominem and appeal to authority &#8211; hey, keep it up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shahar Lubin</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/17/was-jesus-conservative-or-liberal/#comment-25421</link>
		<dc:creator>Shahar Lubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whale is translated from the old Hebrew - &quot;Leviathan&quot;. Probably Tuna.

Still a bunch of non sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whale is translated from the old Hebrew &#8211; &#8220;Leviathan&#8221;. Probably Tuna.</p>
<p>Still a bunch of non sense.</p>
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		<title>By: The Saint</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/17/was-jesus-conservative-or-liberal/#comment-25416</link>
		<dc:creator>The Saint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know that Michael Shermer is a Libertarian, right? Now don&#039;t you feel silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know that Michael Shermer is a Libertarian, right? Now don&#8217;t you feel silly.</p>
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