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	<title>Comments on: The Passion of Saint Mel (Gibson that is)</title>
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		<title>By: Valdecy Alves</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/03/the-passion-of-saint-mel/#comment-55225</link>
		<dc:creator>Valdecy Alves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 22:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CONGRATULATIONS! Read article on theater Senador Pompeu, Brazil, The Passion of  the Christ! And learn about some of our religious culture. Access in:
http://valdecyalves.blogspot.com/2011/04/arte-paixao-tradicao-cultura-e-fe.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CONGRATULATIONS! Read article on theater Senador Pompeu, Brazil, The Passion of  the Christ! And learn about some of our religious culture. Access in:<br />
<a href="http://valdecyalves.blogspot.com/2011/04/arte-paixao-tradicao-cultura-e-fe.html" rel="nofollow">http://valdecyalves.blogspot.com/2011/04/arte-paixao-tradicao-cultura-e-fe.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: erik jay</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/03/the-passion-of-saint-mel/#comment-51610</link>
		<dc:creator>erik jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The consensus is that it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The consensus is that it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/03/the-passion-of-saint-mel/#comment-25369</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The British are not a race of people, therefore you cannot be &quot;racist&quot; against them. I believe the term you meant, albeit incorrectly, was &quot;prejudiced&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The British are not a race of people, therefore you cannot be &#8220;racist&#8221; against them. I believe the term you meant, albeit incorrectly, was &#8220;prejudiced&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/03/the-passion-of-saint-mel/#comment-25366</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People behind the scenes are trying to discredit him&quot;

So this is a conspiracy now, is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People behind the scenes are trying to discredit him&#8221;</p>
<p>So this is a conspiracy now, is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/03/the-passion-of-saint-mel/#comment-25365</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GoneWithTheWind

Seriously?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GoneWithTheWind</p>
<p>Seriously?</p>
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		<title>By: Anita Ikonen</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/03/the-passion-of-saint-mel/#comment-25058</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita Ikonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 21:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree that Mr. Gibson&#039;s drinking habits or personal life would have anything to do with discrediting the religious doctrine to which he belongs, whether he has claimed to be a representative of his religious beliefs or not or been awarded that responsibility. Such behavior would disqualify him as a representative and detach him from any accountability against his religion, especially since such behavior is not an intended characteristic of the practice of his religion. 

I am reminded of how a generous majority of more than half of all the skeptical engagements I hear of happen to be something along the lines of &quot;Drinking Skeptically&quot;, or &quot;Skeptics at the Pub&quot;, and so if alcohol consumption or vulgar outrageous behavior were the principle by which to discredit belief systems, then Skepticism as a movement would be down the drain long time ago. 

With an abundance of good cases against Christianity such as the Spanish Inquisition, why reduce the skeptical atheist enlightenment campaign into petty bickering based on personal attack and ridicule of individual members, when the very same could easily be turned against the skeptics and probably more so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that Mr. Gibson&#8217;s drinking habits or personal life would have anything to do with discrediting the religious doctrine to which he belongs, whether he has claimed to be a representative of his religious beliefs or not or been awarded that responsibility. Such behavior would disqualify him as a representative and detach him from any accountability against his religion, especially since such behavior is not an intended characteristic of the practice of his religion. </p>
<p>I am reminded of how a generous majority of more than half of all the skeptical engagements I hear of happen to be something along the lines of &#8220;Drinking Skeptically&#8221;, or &#8220;Skeptics at the Pub&#8221;, and so if alcohol consumption or vulgar outrageous behavior were the principle by which to discredit belief systems, then Skepticism as a movement would be down the drain long time ago. </p>
<p>With an abundance of good cases against Christianity such as the Spanish Inquisition, why reduce the skeptical atheist enlightenment campaign into petty bickering based on personal attack and ridicule of individual members, when the very same could easily be turned against the skeptics and probably more so.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/03/the-passion-of-saint-mel/#comment-24933</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 02:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inductive generalizations don&#039;t have to be hasty generalizations.
When there&#039;s sufficient evidence to make a generalization, we can view new evidence in the context of that generalization, and use it to refine the generalization.
The case of Mel Gibson is just a data point to add to the Spanish Inquisition, the blood libel, Father Coughlin&#039;s broadcasts, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inductive generalizations don&#8217;t have to be hasty generalizations.<br />
When there&#8217;s sufficient evidence to make a generalization, we can view new evidence in the context of that generalization, and use it to refine the generalization.<br />
The case of Mel Gibson is just a data point to add to the Spanish Inquisition, the blood libel, Father Coughlin&#8217;s broadcasts, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita Ikonen</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/03/the-passion-of-saint-mel/#comment-24929</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita Ikonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 23:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A religious doctrine can not be undermined by one of its public practitioners having, as you say, &quot;a hot head temper with a hair trigger mouth and a propensity to drink&quot;, but rather beliefs such as Catholicism and antisemitism fall on their own by their innate fallibilities. 

It is, as childrens welfare activist Sean Faircloths TAM8 topic where he emphasized the need for secularism (to keep religion out of politics) by pointing to the many flaws in Catholicism and Christian practice leading to things such as child neglect as devout parents refuse to take their children to hospital care choosing to pray for their cures instead, or the many cases of tolerance of pedophilia found within Catholicism. 

But what struck me in Faircloth&#039;s talk was that he mainly emphasized on one isolated case in which an Amelia White died as the result of being forgotten out in a hot van right outside her Christian daycare center. 

Using such an isolated and obviously unintentional accident as that of Amelia White, in an attempt to disqualify the fundamental beliefs of associated persons or organizations, comes across as just a tacky attack something similar to what is seen in political campaigns. 

Point being, that even an Atheist daycare center could have accidentally forgotten a child, without it being anywhere capable of damaging the fundamental ideologies of Atheism. Similarly, the personality or drinking habits or Mr. Gibson offer nothing against the evaluation of doctrines such as Catholicism or antisemitism which fall alone, and especially since their opposites perhaps skepticism and human rights movements would not falter if one or a few of its members were to have &quot;a hot head temper with a hair trigger mouth and a propensity to drink&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A religious doctrine can not be undermined by one of its public practitioners having, as you say, &#8220;a hot head temper with a hair trigger mouth and a propensity to drink&#8221;, but rather beliefs such as Catholicism and antisemitism fall on their own by their innate fallibilities. </p>
<p>It is, as childrens welfare activist Sean Faircloths TAM8 topic where he emphasized the need for secularism (to keep religion out of politics) by pointing to the many flaws in Catholicism and Christian practice leading to things such as child neglect as devout parents refuse to take their children to hospital care choosing to pray for their cures instead, or the many cases of tolerance of pedophilia found within Catholicism. </p>
<p>But what struck me in Faircloth&#8217;s talk was that he mainly emphasized on one isolated case in which an Amelia White died as the result of being forgotten out in a hot van right outside her Christian daycare center. </p>
<p>Using such an isolated and obviously unintentional accident as that of Amelia White, in an attempt to disqualify the fundamental beliefs of associated persons or organizations, comes across as just a tacky attack something similar to what is seen in political campaigns. </p>
<p>Point being, that even an Atheist daycare center could have accidentally forgotten a child, without it being anywhere capable of damaging the fundamental ideologies of Atheism. Similarly, the personality or drinking habits or Mr. Gibson offer nothing against the evaluation of doctrines such as Catholicism or antisemitism which fall alone, and especially since their opposites perhaps skepticism and human rights movements would not falter if one or a few of its members were to have &#8220;a hot head temper with a hair trigger mouth and a propensity to drink&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/03/the-passion-of-saint-mel/#comment-24894</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 02:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The followers of the zombie they call Jesus are one strange bunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The followers of the zombie they call Jesus are one strange bunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose the Paranormal Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/08/03/the-passion-of-saint-mel/#comment-24892</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose the Paranormal Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t we all just agree that Mariah Carrey should never be allowed to make another CD?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t we all just agree that Mariah Carrey should never be allowed to make another CD?</p>
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