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	<title>Comments on: ‘I didn’t know the mic was on’: Public Talk v. Private Talk</title>
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		<title>By: awC</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/06/29/public-talk-versus-private-talk/#comment-23206</link>
		<dc:creator>awC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the vast majority of people the mic on or off is much more subtle, we are not promoting a public persona for general consumption or attempting to sway public opinion.  Then again we often have to get along with people we do not want be around, at school, on projects at work etc. Not say what we really feel, even speak well of them for the good of a cause or for an end goal.

I do not think it is any different it is just that the results are public or publicly debated for these people.  None of us would likely perform any better, probably worse in similar circumstances.

Anyway...  given the fact this happens.

The position that one should speak as if the mic is always on, has me wondering how can someone actually accomplish this?  It would be no small feat if not impossible.

Does that assume that the person speaking must always say what they believe at all times? Therefore, they would never slip up and say the wrong thing, the problem is it may not align with the goals they wish to achieve.  Some public lies may be required to make partnerships work or garner the support of the majority.

Perhaps that a person in the limelight must be &quot;always on&quot; always voicing their public position or defending it regardless of what they really felt? Likely end in a breakdown of some type, no one could keep this up indefinitley.

The easiest would be to have the speaker consider who can they trust?  So, anytime there is the possibility of a mic around there is none to be trusted.  Here however, we are back to being victims of ubiquitous technology that is always on everywhere we go.

The other side is we can hope for enlightenment of the masses who understand the subtlties, who will see through the media circus and not pick sides rather be more accepting of these situations.  Ya, that is not going to happen at all.

Signed, 
ye of little faith

awC

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the vast majority of people the mic on or off is much more subtle, we are not promoting a public persona for general consumption or attempting to sway public opinion.  Then again we often have to get along with people we do not want be around, at school, on projects at work etc. Not say what we really feel, even speak well of them for the good of a cause or for an end goal.</p>
<p>I do not think it is any different it is just that the results are public or publicly debated for these people.  None of us would likely perform any better, probably worse in similar circumstances.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;  given the fact this happens.</p>
<p>The position that one should speak as if the mic is always on, has me wondering how can someone actually accomplish this?  It would be no small feat if not impossible.</p>
<p>Does that assume that the person speaking must always say what they believe at all times? Therefore, they would never slip up and say the wrong thing, the problem is it may not align with the goals they wish to achieve.  Some public lies may be required to make partnerships work or garner the support of the majority.</p>
<p>Perhaps that a person in the limelight must be &#8220;always on&#8221; always voicing their public position or defending it regardless of what they really felt? Likely end in a breakdown of some type, no one could keep this up indefinitley.</p>
<p>The easiest would be to have the speaker consider who can they trust?  So, anytime there is the possibility of a mic around there is none to be trusted.  Here however, we are back to being victims of ubiquitous technology that is always on everywhere we go.</p>
<p>The other side is we can hope for enlightenment of the masses who understand the subtlties, who will see through the media circus and not pick sides rather be more accepting of these situations.  Ya, that is not going to happen at all.</p>
<p>Signed,<br />
ye of little faith</p>
<p>awC</p>
<p>awC</p>
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		<title>By: Gilgamesh</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/06/29/public-talk-versus-private-talk/#comment-23190</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilgamesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think General McCrystal&#039;s remarks were as calculated as that senator shouting: &quot;You Lie&quot;, during Obama&#039;s State of the Union speech.  It earned them respect from the tea baggers.  The rude senator was cashing in on his ejaculations the very next day when money started pouring into his campaign fund.

Its&#039; an even bet we will see McCrystal running for public office now that he has established his tea bagger credentials.  He is even a martyr for the right since he was forced to resigned over the issue.

Does anyone see the hypocrisy of conservatives who would have apoplexy if a general had dissed President Bush yet believe President Obama to be unfair when he disciplines McCrystal?

A hard lesson I learned when I was in the military, was that I was on duty 24 hours a day and I should never speak ill of a superior or their orders.

The remarks of McCrystal and his staff were definitely for public consumption, but they are smart people, with Rolling Stone&#039;s article comes plausible deniability.   &quot;Wait...what?  Are you saying reporters publish the answers I give them during interviews?&quot;

Dr.Shermer, I&#039;m surprised to see you so far off base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think General McCrystal&#8217;s remarks were as calculated as that senator shouting: &#8220;You Lie&#8221;, during Obama&#8217;s State of the Union speech.  It earned them respect from the tea baggers.  The rude senator was cashing in on his ejaculations the very next day when money started pouring into his campaign fund.</p>
<p>Its&#8217; an even bet we will see McCrystal running for public office now that he has established his tea bagger credentials.  He is even a martyr for the right since he was forced to resigned over the issue.</p>
<p>Does anyone see the hypocrisy of conservatives who would have apoplexy if a general had dissed President Bush yet believe President Obama to be unfair when he disciplines McCrystal?</p>
<p>A hard lesson I learned when I was in the military, was that I was on duty 24 hours a day and I should never speak ill of a superior or their orders.</p>
<p>The remarks of McCrystal and his staff were definitely for public consumption, but they are smart people, with Rolling Stone&#8217;s article comes plausible deniability.   &#8220;Wait&#8230;what?  Are you saying reporters publish the answers I give them during interviews?&#8221;</p>
<p>Dr.Shermer, I&#8217;m surprised to see you so far off base.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/06/29/public-talk-versus-private-talk/#comment-22983</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In California, it&#039;s illegal to record conversations without the participants&#039; consent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In California, it&#8217;s illegal to record conversations without the participants&#8217; consent.</p>
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		<title>By: Loughlin Tatem</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/06/29/public-talk-versus-private-talk/#comment-22982</link>
		<dc:creator>Loughlin Tatem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The persons who operate mics are to ensure that the person on whom it is pinned knows whether it is on or not. Don&#039;t tell me that a mic operator has the power to destroy an entire career in a split-second by the touch of a simple switch and the the world never question who should have been responsible for ensuring that people in responsible position are not derailed by a single misstatement. The mic man or woman but feel the weight of that responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The persons who operate mics are to ensure that the person on whom it is pinned knows whether it is on or not. Don&#8217;t tell me that a mic operator has the power to destroy an entire career in a split-second by the touch of a simple switch and the the world never question who should have been responsible for ensuring that people in responsible position are not derailed by a single misstatement. The mic man or woman but feel the weight of that responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: tmac57</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/06/29/public-talk-versus-private-talk/#comment-22942</link>
		<dc:creator>tmac57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 01:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Uk has their own FOIA. The CRU was being flooded with FOI requests prior to the &#039;hack job&#039;. That was one of the things that was irritating the researchers,and causing them to be on the defensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Uk has their own FOIA. The CRU was being flooded with FOI requests prior to the &#8216;hack job&#8217;. That was one of the things that was irritating the researchers,and causing them to be on the defensive.</p>
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		<title>By: JGB</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/06/29/public-talk-versus-private-talk/#comment-22935</link>
		<dc:creator>JGB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  

Further, when a subordinate screws up it reflects poorly the leader. That&#039;s part of being a leader: you&#039;re responsible for your actions plus your subordinates&#039; actions.  (If you don&#039;t want that responsibility then don&#039;t be a leader!)

McChrystal was responsible for the statements of his staff - it was his job to keep his guys in line and he failed. But sh!t rolls up hill: It was ultimately Obama&#039;s job to see to it that his staff was on top of things and ensured that those who answer to them did their jobs effectively.

Faulty leadership at multiple levels.  Not a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  </p>
<p>Further, when a subordinate screws up it reflects poorly the leader. That&#8217;s part of being a leader: you&#8217;re responsible for your actions plus your subordinates&#8217; actions.  (If you don&#8217;t want that responsibility then don&#8217;t be a leader!)</p>
<p>McChrystal was responsible for the statements of his staff &#8211; it was his job to keep his guys in line and he failed. But sh!t rolls up hill: It was ultimately Obama&#8217;s job to see to it that his staff was on top of things and ensured that those who answer to them did their jobs effectively.</p>
<p>Faulty leadership at multiple levels.  Not a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: JGB</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/06/29/public-talk-versus-private-talk/#comment-22933</link>
		<dc:creator>JGB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were hacked in the UK.  Does the UK have to obery FOIA requests?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were hacked in the UK.  Does the UK have to obery FOIA requests?</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/06/29/public-talk-versus-private-talk/#comment-22913</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 08:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Obama promoted a 3 star general to command the ISAF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Obama promoted a 3 star general to command the ISAF.</p>
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		<title>By: Beelzebud</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/06/29/public-talk-versus-private-talk/#comment-22910</link>
		<dc:creator>Beelzebud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 05:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you suggesting that Obama &quot;hired&quot; a 4 star general that has been in the military for his entire adult life?  Really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you suggesting that Obama &#8220;hired&#8221; a 4 star general that has been in the military for his entire adult life?  Really?</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/06/29/public-talk-versus-private-talk/#comment-22902</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 02:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any time an executive fires someone he hired, it reflects poorly on the executive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any time an executive fires someone he hired, it reflects poorly on the executive.</p>
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