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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/01/armchair-skeptics/#comment-18969</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the recordings are compressed, so what you&#039;re hearing is not noise, but compression artifacts, sort of like jpeg artifacts in photos. If that&#039;s the case, I&#039;d expect higher compression to produce more artifacts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the recordings are compressed, so what you&#8217;re hearing is not noise, but compression artifacts, sort of like jpeg artifacts in photos. If that&#8217;s the case, I&#8217;d expect higher compression to produce more artifacts.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/01/armchair-skeptics/#comment-18962</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, more with the midrange priced ones. The VN-4100&#039;s when I bought them were about $45 to $50 bucks a piece. The Sony ICD pocket recorders I purchased brand new for about $60.00 to $70.00 a piece. You should try and get one that has a minimum of 44.1 KH which is CD quality type sound. The real cheap recorders can easily pick up stray radio RF.

There is a theory that the ICD recorders have transistors that act like the old V-tubes in the reel to reel recorders in the 1970&#039;s. EVP&#039;s seem to have had an upsurge when the the reel to reel recorders were heavily in use. When they went away, EVP was captured less and less.

Now I have no way of knowing if this is true or not. Just another theory to add to the pile.


Most of the EVP&#039;s I get I throw away. However, I have had several full voice EVP&#039;s that were very clear, but most importantly, they were intelligent responses to the questions asked in the EVP session by the investigator.



We don&#039;t use those fraudulent ghost boxes either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, more with the midrange priced ones. The VN-4100&#8242;s when I bought them were about $45 to $50 bucks a piece. The Sony ICD pocket recorders I purchased brand new for about $60.00 to $70.00 a piece. You should try and get one that has a minimum of 44.1 KH which is CD quality type sound. The real cheap recorders can easily pick up stray radio RF.</p>
<p>There is a theory that the ICD recorders have transistors that act like the old V-tubes in the reel to reel recorders in the 1970&#8242;s. EVP&#8217;s seem to have had an upsurge when the the reel to reel recorders were heavily in use. When they went away, EVP was captured less and less.</p>
<p>Now I have no way of knowing if this is true or not. Just another theory to add to the pile.</p>
<p>Most of the EVP&#8217;s I get I throw away. However, I have had several full voice EVP&#8217;s that were very clear, but most importantly, they were intelligent responses to the questions asked in the EVP session by the investigator.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t use those fraudulent ghost boxes either.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/01/armchair-skeptics/#comment-18943</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you capture more EVP with higher quality recordings than with lower quality?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you capture more EVP with higher quality recordings than with lower quality?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/01/armchair-skeptics/#comment-18934</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use all types from high end to low end recorders. The IC pocket recorders from Sony are great for capturing EVP. The only drawback is that they have only HQ as their best recording mode while Olympus has XHQ modes for better sound quality. But I prefer Olympus VN-41 series. I have had great success with these.

But any recorder will do. I do not use cassette. Just digital. 

I think the technique you use is the most important thing to think about when you capture EVP. The more recorders you use the better chance you have in capturing them.

I use 10 to 15 recorders on a typical investigation. At least 2 per each room. One is always a control recorder.

I also use external microphones for better sound quality if I capture one. The dynamic, omni directional microphones are great and they do not require batteries. The thinking here is that if you cover the entire building with an audio net, if audio phenomena responds, we will capture it. We have found that this is usually the best way to tell if there is something paranormal going on in any given location.

Example: We recently completed an investigation where workers reported seeing the constant apparition of a small child in their construction/work area. We conducted an investigation and did not pick up anything on video but we captured the very strong voice of a child on one of my recorders. We had recorders packed into that work area. It was not a voice from the natural environment.

The EVP was captured on only one recorder. We are planning to go back there soon.

James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use all types from high end to low end recorders. The IC pocket recorders from Sony are great for capturing EVP. The only drawback is that they have only HQ as their best recording mode while Olympus has XHQ modes for better sound quality. But I prefer Olympus VN-41 series. I have had great success with these.</p>
<p>But any recorder will do. I do not use cassette. Just digital. </p>
<p>I think the technique you use is the most important thing to think about when you capture EVP. The more recorders you use the better chance you have in capturing them.</p>
<p>I use 10 to 15 recorders on a typical investigation. At least 2 per each room. One is always a control recorder.</p>
<p>I also use external microphones for better sound quality if I capture one. The dynamic, omni directional microphones are great and they do not require batteries. The thinking here is that if you cover the entire building with an audio net, if audio phenomena responds, we will capture it. We have found that this is usually the best way to tell if there is something paranormal going on in any given location.</p>
<p>Example: We recently completed an investigation where workers reported seeing the constant apparition of a small child in their construction/work area. We conducted an investigation and did not pick up anything on video but we captured the very strong voice of a child on one of my recorders. We had recorders packed into that work area. It was not a voice from the natural environment.</p>
<p>The EVP was captured on only one recorder. We are planning to go back there soon.</p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>By: Jose the Paranormal Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/01/armchair-skeptics/#comment-18926</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose the Paranormal Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What brand/model audio recorders do you use?</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/01/armchair-skeptics/#comment-18919</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Max

The truth is we don&#039;t know why EVP only is captured on one recorder. Plenty of theories though. One is that EVP voices are imprinted on to the recording device by some sort of unknown force. Some believe that the phenomena itself does it by psychokinesis. Another theory is that EVP are tiny EMF fields that are captured on recording devices created inside the external microphone. So many theories...


I can only speak up for my own evidence. I have been investigating with the same team since 2004. I first thought the EVP was imprintation of sounds by the brain on to the recording devices until I recorded that EVP at the Birdcage Theatre that I posted here. Plus, I went almost 14 months without capturing an EVP during investigations. If my brain was causing or creating EVP&#039;s or someone in my group was, why was it so long before I captured an EVP? We perform about 3 investigations a month on average. Most of them are private homes or business locations. Clients contacting us through our website. We are always busy! LOL!



It is a fascinating field to study and participate in. It is a real phenomena. We look at the interactive EVP answers to the questions asked during EVP sessions as the best evidence. 

To answer your question about cell phones. Yes, we turn them off before the investigations. You have to be careful with the EMF meters too. Most of them can be affected and give false positive readings from nearby cell phone towers.  Cell phone calls can ping off of a nearby tower and acutally spike a single axis EMF meter. Such as the type they use on several paranormal shows.


James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Max</p>
<p>The truth is we don&#8217;t know why EVP only is captured on one recorder. Plenty of theories though. One is that EVP voices are imprinted on to the recording device by some sort of unknown force. Some believe that the phenomena itself does it by psychokinesis. Another theory is that EVP are tiny EMF fields that are captured on recording devices created inside the external microphone. So many theories&#8230;</p>
<p>I can only speak up for my own evidence. I have been investigating with the same team since 2004. I first thought the EVP was imprintation of sounds by the brain on to the recording devices until I recorded that EVP at the Birdcage Theatre that I posted here. Plus, I went almost 14 months without capturing an EVP during investigations. If my brain was causing or creating EVP&#8217;s or someone in my group was, why was it so long before I captured an EVP? We perform about 3 investigations a month on average. Most of them are private homes or business locations. Clients contacting us through our website. We are always busy! LOL!</p>
<p>It is a fascinating field to study and participate in. It is a real phenomena. We look at the interactive EVP answers to the questions asked during EVP sessions as the best evidence. </p>
<p>To answer your question about cell phones. Yes, we turn them off before the investigations. You have to be careful with the EMF meters too. Most of them can be affected and give false positive readings from nearby cell phone towers.  Cell phone calls can ping off of a nearby tower and acutally spike a single axis EMF meter. Such as the type they use on several paranormal shows.</p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/01/armchair-skeptics/#comment-18896</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you put two recorders next to each other, shouldn&#039;t they both record the same thing? Why would the EVP prefer one recorder over the other? A pattern captured by only one recorder is likely to be random noise unique to that recorder.

Do you turn off your cell phones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you put two recorders next to each other, shouldn&#8217;t they both record the same thing? Why would the EVP prefer one recorder over the other? A pattern captured by only one recorder is likely to be random noise unique to that recorder.</p>
<p>Do you turn off your cell phones?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/01/armchair-skeptics/#comment-18894</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://arizonaparanormalinvestigations.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=1&amp;pos=8


Hi Steve,

Here is a multiple response EVP I was talking about. Click on the link above. This changed my belief system about EVP&#039;s altogether. You will hear me ask a question about &quot;Soiled Doves&quot; then two EVP voices commenting talking over each other and at the end of the clip a very loud EVP voice that says &quot;None!&quot;

I had two ICD digital recorders situated in the basement positioned on the guard rails pointed at the high stakes poker tables. This was also the location of the bordello in the old days of Wyatt Earp and friends. We were on the main floor. There were 4 investigators at a table and I was near the entrance of the museum monitoring everything with a shotgun microphone with headphones. The reason you hear my voice so clear is there was a wire mesh window leading from the main floor that drops down into the small basement. I was about 50 feet or so away from the basement. The Birdcage Theatre is very tiny. The caretaker of the place was in the entry foyer in the front of the building in his office. Without him knowing, I placed a hidden digital recorder by his door in case he left without us knowing if he tried to fake anything. He never left the office without us being there.

Just remember when you hear this is that it is not filtered and there are actually 4 EVP voices instead of 3 on this clip. But since very few people can hear it we did not include it when we released it to the public. 

Why is this good evidence? If this was a hoaxed EVP by a person, the other recorder would have captured these sounds. Both recorders were on the guard rail pointed at the same location. The control recorder captured no voices and it was not tampered with. I was stunned when this realization hit me. Forgive the quality of the recording, we are not allowed to filter EVP&#039;s. ICD recorders are great for picking up EVP but the sound quality leaves alot to be desired.

To Jose: I agree with most of what you are saying. But most of the EVP evidence we display to the public are voices that we have captured. Clear voices. Not the stuff you hear on paranormal shows.  Here is another clip to listen to. We have been investigating this place for 5 years. Do you hear the &quot; Favorite Place&quot; EVP voice?  There was only myself and my director in this home the entire night. The owners were out of state. We were conducting audio and video experiments in a active location that night.

http://arizonaparanormalinvestigations.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=random&amp;cat=6&amp;pos=-3


To Max:

I place at least 2 recorders in each room of a typical home to capture outside noises coming into the building. One recorder acts as a control. Usually by the window. If a voice is captured on both recorders chances are it is a human voice, not an EVP. A true EVP is never heard in real time. We control the environment in the structure. We check all doors and windows to insure they are secured before these EVP sessions. We have trained monitors listening for natural sounds in the environment as well during EVP sessions. 


James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://arizonaparanormalinvestigations.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=1&#038;pos=8" rel="nofollow">http://arizonaparanormalinvestigations.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=1&#038;pos=8</a></p>
<p>Hi Steve,</p>
<p>Here is a multiple response EVP I was talking about. Click on the link above. This changed my belief system about EVP&#8217;s altogether. You will hear me ask a question about &#8220;Soiled Doves&#8221; then two EVP voices commenting talking over each other and at the end of the clip a very loud EVP voice that says &#8220;None!&#8221;</p>
<p>I had two ICD digital recorders situated in the basement positioned on the guard rails pointed at the high stakes poker tables. This was also the location of the bordello in the old days of Wyatt Earp and friends. We were on the main floor. There were 4 investigators at a table and I was near the entrance of the museum monitoring everything with a shotgun microphone with headphones. The reason you hear my voice so clear is there was a wire mesh window leading from the main floor that drops down into the small basement. I was about 50 feet or so away from the basement. The Birdcage Theatre is very tiny. The caretaker of the place was in the entry foyer in the front of the building in his office. Without him knowing, I placed a hidden digital recorder by his door in case he left without us knowing if he tried to fake anything. He never left the office without us being there.</p>
<p>Just remember when you hear this is that it is not filtered and there are actually 4 EVP voices instead of 3 on this clip. But since very few people can hear it we did not include it when we released it to the public. </p>
<p>Why is this good evidence? If this was a hoaxed EVP by a person, the other recorder would have captured these sounds. Both recorders were on the guard rail pointed at the same location. The control recorder captured no voices and it was not tampered with. I was stunned when this realization hit me. Forgive the quality of the recording, we are not allowed to filter EVP&#8217;s. ICD recorders are great for picking up EVP but the sound quality leaves alot to be desired.</p>
<p>To Jose: I agree with most of what you are saying. But most of the EVP evidence we display to the public are voices that we have captured. Clear voices. Not the stuff you hear on paranormal shows.  Here is another clip to listen to. We have been investigating this place for 5 years. Do you hear the &#8221; Favorite Place&#8221; EVP voice?  There was only myself and my director in this home the entire night. The owners were out of state. We were conducting audio and video experiments in a active location that night.</p>
<p><a href="http://arizonaparanormalinvestigations.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=random&#038;cat=6&#038;pos=-3" rel="nofollow">http://arizonaparanormalinvestigations.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=random&#038;cat=6&#038;pos=-3</a></p>
<p>To Max:</p>
<p>I place at least 2 recorders in each room of a typical home to capture outside noises coming into the building. One recorder acts as a control. Usually by the window. If a voice is captured on both recorders chances are it is a human voice, not an EVP. A true EVP is never heard in real time. We control the environment in the structure. We check all doors and windows to insure they are secured before these EVP sessions. We have trained monitors listening for natural sounds in the environment as well during EVP sessions. </p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/01/armchair-skeptics/#comment-18848</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose of using two recorders should be to make sure they both pick up the same pattern. If they only record random noise, they&#039;re not likely to show the same pattern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of using two recorders should be to make sure they both pick up the same pattern. If they only record random noise, they&#8217;re not likely to show the same pattern.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose the Paranormal Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2010/03/01/armchair-skeptics/#comment-18820</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose the Paranormal Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 01:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you&#039;ll hear a voice right after you run a few filters through the audio. Reverse it. Reverse it again. Reverse it again to be sure. Throw some noise at it. Clean it up again. Flip it over and scratch it&#039;s belly and finally....reverse it once more for good measure.

Seriously, if an audio recorder can pick up &quot;voices,&quot; then you should really be able to hear them with your own ears. Audio recorders aren&#039;t magic. They&#039;re....audio recorders.

I just have major issues with the entire concept of EVPs. I find it increasingly frustrating that people will hold a cheap dictaphone and get voices form the &quot;other side.&quot; Meanwhile, others can walk around with broadcast equipment running modified pre-amps that will capture a bee fart with the utmost of noise and still not get a single &quot;boo.&quot;

Ever wondered why you don&#039;t watch a movie in the cinema and have it plagued with EVPs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you&#8217;ll hear a voice right after you run a few filters through the audio. Reverse it. Reverse it again. Reverse it again to be sure. Throw some noise at it. Clean it up again. Flip it over and scratch it&#8217;s belly and finally&#8230;.reverse it once more for good measure.</p>
<p>Seriously, if an audio recorder can pick up &#8220;voices,&#8221; then you should really be able to hear them with your own ears. Audio recorders aren&#8217;t magic. They&#8217;re&#8230;.audio recorders.</p>
<p>I just have major issues with the entire concept of EVPs. I find it increasingly frustrating that people will hold a cheap dictaphone and get voices form the &#8220;other side.&#8221; Meanwhile, others can walk around with broadcast equipment running modified pre-amps that will capture a bee fart with the utmost of noise and still not get a single &#8220;boo.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ever wondered why you don&#8217;t watch a movie in the cinema and have it plagued with EVPs?</p>
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