Comments on: Do astronomers see UFOs? http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/12/30/do-astronomers-see-ufos/ The official blog of the Skeptologists Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:38:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ted N. http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/12/30/do-astronomers-see-ufos/#comment-70907 Ted N. Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:27:16 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=5770#comment-70907 There we go again: Son of Billy Meier speaks out: “Dear Father, I’ve had enough!” Methusalem Meier (38), the second-oldest son of the controversial Swiss “UFO prophet” Billy Meier (74), has finally had enough: In an open letter, twelve pages long, he casts a very harsh judgement on his father, but also on himself – and equally on the members of Billy’s controversial UFO sect, FIGU, and its alien fairytales. The accusations are substantial: Methusalem accuses his father of being physically violent both to his mother, Kalliope, and himself over the course of many years. Why has he done so publicly? “Because I want to distance myself once and for all from the nasty games and machinations of my father – in order finally to start a new life.” The entire german letter from Methusalem Meier can be downloaded as a PDF file (see the link below). In contrast to Billy, Methusalem Meier is willing at all times to answer questions: “I have nothing to hide. It’s high time that the world discovers the sad truth about my father.” Whoever wants to contact Methusalem Meier personally can do so at his direct e-mail address: methi77@bluewin.ch http://www.mysteries-magazin.com/index.php?op=news&func=news&id=5272&PHPSESSID=15bfd8cccd6a0cbe7e5f24625c48f423 http://www.mysteries-magazin.com/dokumente/meier.pdf What a sordid tragedy! There we go again:

Son of Billy Meier speaks out: “Dear Father, I’ve had enough!”

Methusalem Meier (38), the second-oldest son of the controversial Swiss “UFO prophet” Billy Meier (74), has finally had enough: In an open letter, twelve pages long, he casts a very harsh judgement on his father, but also on himself – and equally on the members of Billy’s controversial UFO sect, FIGU, and its alien fairytales.
The accusations are substantial: Methusalem accuses his father of being physically violent both to his mother, Kalliope, and himself over the course of many years.

Why has he done so publicly?
“Because I want to distance myself once and for all from the nasty games and machinations of my father – in order finally to start a new life.”
The entire german letter from Methusalem Meier can be downloaded as a PDF file (see the link below).
In contrast to Billy, Methusalem Meier is willing at all times to answer questions: “I have nothing to hide. It’s high time that the world discovers the sad truth about my father.”
Whoever wants to contact Methusalem Meier personally can do so at his direct e-mail address: methi77@bluewin.ch

http://www.mysteries-magazin.com/index.php?op=news&func=news&id=5272&PHPSESSID=15bfd8cccd6a0cbe7e5f24625c48f423

http://www.mysteries-magazin.com/dokumente/meier.pdf

What a sordid tragedy!

]]> By: Ted N. http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/12/30/do-astronomers-see-ufos/#comment-61106 Ted N. Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:53:18 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=5770#comment-61106 Comment 34, reading: "Phil P. says "Everything Michael Horn says is true"" is not from Phil Plait. See: http://theyflyblog.com/a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-mars/08/06/2011 "Sheila says: August 10, 2011 at 3:41 pm Hi Zach, yes that’s true but you’ll also notice those deep shadows show up inside the gulley, not outside it like many of these pictures from Mars. See nasaphotojournal for further review. Check out those perfectly circular “craters” (NASA’s words) and think about when a meteorite lands on earth, how it never makes a completely circular pattern, always breaks up before hitting. Billy has also said that most of the old rivers on Mars have been covered up by soil and volcanic ash. Oddly when I went to the skeptics blog and signed up as Phil P. and commented “Everything Michael Horn says is true” they didn’t post that either. Go figure." Comment 34, reading:
“Phil P. says “Everything Michael Horn says is true”" is not from Phil Plait.

See: http://theyflyblog.com/a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-mars/08/06/2011

“Sheila says:
August 10, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Hi Zach, yes that’s true but you’ll also notice those deep shadows show up inside the gulley, not outside it like many of these pictures from Mars. See nasaphotojournal for further review. Check out those perfectly circular “craters” (NASA’s words) and think about when a meteorite lands on earth, how it never makes a completely circular pattern, always breaks up before hitting. Billy has also said that most of the old rivers on Mars have been covered up by soil and volcanic ash.
Oddly when I went to the skeptics blog and signed up as Phil P. and commented “Everything Michael Horn says is true” they didn’t post that either. Go figure.”

]]> By: Ted N. http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/12/30/do-astronomers-see-ufos/#comment-61043 Ted N. Sun, 21 Aug 2011 07:11:58 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=5770#comment-61043 Regarding comment 34, reading "Everything Michael Horn says is true", sadly enough: http://theyflyblog.com/a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-mars/08/06/2011 "Sheila says: August 10, 2011 at 3:41 pm Hi Zach, yes that’s true but you’ll also notice those deep shadows show up inside the gulley, not outside it like many of these pictures from Mars. See nasaphotojournal for further review. Check out those perfectly circular “craters” (NASA’s words) and think about when a meteorite lands on earth, how it never makes a completely circular pattern, always breaks up before hitting. Billy has also said that most of the old rivers on Mars have been covered up by soil and volcanic ash. Oddly when I went to the skeptics blog and signed up as Phil P. and commented “Everything Michael Horn says is true” they didn’t post that either. Go figure." A bad day for truth, ethics, honesty... Regarding comment 34, reading “Everything Michael Horn says is true”, sadly enough:

http://theyflyblog.com/a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-mars/08/06/2011

“Sheila says:
August 10, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Hi Zach, yes that’s true but you’ll also notice those deep shadows show up inside the gulley, not outside it like many of these pictures from Mars. See nasaphotojournal for further review. Check out those perfectly circular “craters” (NASA’s words) and think about when a meteorite lands on earth, how it never makes a completely circular pattern, always breaks up before hitting. Billy has also said that most of the old rivers on Mars have been covered up by soil and volcanic ash.
Oddly when I went to the skeptics blog and signed up as Phil P. and commented “Everything Michael Horn says is true” they didn’t post that either. Go figure.”

A bad day for truth, ethics, honesty…

]]> By: Phil P. http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/12/30/do-astronomers-see-ufos/#comment-60499 Phil P. Tue, 09 Aug 2011 03:32:29 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=5770#comment-60499 Everything Michael Horn says is true. Everything Michael Horn says is true.

]]> By: Trang Bree http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/12/30/do-astronomers-see-ufos/#comment-24178 Trang Bree Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:56:32 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=5770#comment-24178 Well...this place never fails in surprising me man.. LOL.. Wishing you are all doing well today. Enjoy the day, and always keep smiling. Then stab someone in the chest as you continue to smile. LOL. Well…this place never fails in surprising me man.. LOL.. Wishing you are all doing well today. Enjoy the day, and always keep smiling. Then stab someone in the chest as you continue to smile. LOL.

]]> By: k.m-roud http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/12/30/do-astronomers-see-ufos/#comment-21154 k.m-roud Fri, 07 May 2010 18:16:16 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=5770#comment-21154 what a quandery! u.a.p good term, however by the nature of human need and the obvious propensity to twist terms and statements -after all politicians have done this for generations, the use of it is already redundant. shall i say ; observe , study, analyse and confirm; be true and honest.i personally believe there's a history of "odd things in the skies", i dont think for a moment that the ancient civilisations were remotely dim in any way; ergo there is a case to answer about u.a.p's. lets just be objective and honest.surely that's a good foundation for any study. what a quandery! u.a.p good term, however by the nature of human need and the obvious propensity to twist terms and statements -after all politicians have done this for generations, the use of it is already redundant.
shall i say ; observe , study, analyse and confirm; be true and honest.i personally believe there’s a history of “odd things in the skies”, i dont think for a moment that the ancient civilisations were remotely dim in any way; ergo there is a case to answer about u.a.p’s.
lets just be objective and honest.surely that’s a good foundation for any study.

]]> By: Michael Horn http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/12/30/do-astronomers-see-ufos/#comment-17087 Michael Horn Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:35:10 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=5770#comment-17087 My goodness. Two weeks have gone by and poor Phil - who after all WANTED to see "predictive evidence" - is apparently allergic to actually doing so. Do keep in mind though that Apophis hasn't disappeared just because Phil has. No matter, when usually glib, self-confident (and self-styled) "experts" suddenly speak loudly in their silence, it should at the very least send a message to their followers: Learning to say, "I don't know" carries no shame...and is a nice place from which to begin to learn. Fortunately there's free home study course, for all levels at www.theyfly.com and the sites linked from it. My goodness. Two weeks have gone by and poor Phil – who after all WANTED to see “predictive evidence” – is apparently allergic to actually doing so. Do keep in mind though that Apophis hasn’t disappeared just because Phil has.

No matter, when usually glib, self-confident (and self-styled) “experts” suddenly speak loudly in their silence, it should at the very least send a message to their followers: Learning to say, “I don’t know” carries no shame…and is a nice place from which to begin to learn.

Fortunately there’s free home study course, for all levels at http://www.theyfly.com and the sites linked from it.

]]> By: Michael Horn http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/12/30/do-astronomers-see-ufos/#comment-17068 Michael Horn Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:48:42 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=5770#comment-17068 P.S. Yes we know that OUR scientists downgraded the threat... Need I say more? P.S. Yes we know that OUR scientists downgraded the threat…

Need I say more?

]]> By: Michael Horn http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/12/30/do-astronomers-see-ufos/#comment-17066 Michael Horn Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:46:31 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=5770#comment-17066 Oh, did I mention that the Torino scale was created AFTER Meier's verifiable, copyrighted information was published? Oh, did I mention that the Torino scale was created AFTER Meier’s verifiable, copyrighted information was published?

]]> By: Michael Horn http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/12/30/do-astronomers-see-ufos/#comment-17062 Michael Horn Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:02:24 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=5770#comment-17062 Okay, okay, the Toutatis info is found here: http://theyfly.com/A_True_Prophet_Revealed.html Okay, okay, the Toutatis info is found here:

http://theyfly.com/A_True_Prophet_Revealed.html

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