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		<title>By: Dan Werts</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/11/23/no-growing-earth-but-a-growing-problem-with-science-journalism/#comment-70238</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Werts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been wondering why people continue to believe in this stuff. The lines of evidence in favor of EE seems to collapse on their own. I&#039;ve noticed that for some reason when earths circumference is brought up, nobody seems to touch on it. Especially when you dig into James Maxwel and his stuff. He asserts that the earth is expanding at a rate of 3/4ths an inch a year (Based upon his claimed measurement of 20Km per million years) Yet, when one checks the Geodesy results since the 70s, this growth seems to be missing. 

I wonder, is there a good reason why this tends to get ignored? Other than the fact that it is evidence that the earth has not been expanding these past years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been wondering why people continue to believe in this stuff. The lines of evidence in favor of EE seems to collapse on their own. I&#8217;ve noticed that for some reason when earths circumference is brought up, nobody seems to touch on it. Especially when you dig into James Maxwel and his stuff. He asserts that the earth is expanding at a rate of 3/4ths an inch a year (Based upon his claimed measurement of 20Km per million years) Yet, when one checks the Geodesy results since the 70s, this growth seems to be missing. </p>
<p>I wonder, is there a good reason why this tends to get ignored? Other than the fact that it is evidence that the earth has not been expanding these past years?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Subhasis Sen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Subhasis Sen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cause of extingtion of dinosaurs is sudden depletion of oxygen content over the global surface. Due to extensive photosynthesis caused by coal forming glossopteris and gongomopteris flora of the Lower Permian period, the earth&#039;s surface became very rich in oxygen content which was suddenly depleted by extensive volcanism as well as by increase of earth&#039;s surface area caused by expansion. Eventually, depletion of oxygen caused selective extinction of only large size animals (Earth expansion and consequent volcanism - their relation to mass mortality of dinosaurs, Subhasis Sen, Gondwana Geol. Mag., Spl.Vol.2, 1996, p. 543; Earth - the Planet Extraordinary, Subhasis Sen, Allied Press).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cause of extingtion of dinosaurs is sudden depletion of oxygen content over the global surface. Due to extensive photosynthesis caused by coal forming glossopteris and gongomopteris flora of the Lower Permian period, the earth&#8217;s surface became very rich in oxygen content which was suddenly depleted by extensive volcanism as well as by increase of earth&#8217;s surface area caused by expansion. Eventually, depletion of oxygen caused selective extinction of only large size animals (Earth expansion and consequent volcanism &#8211; their relation to mass mortality of dinosaurs, Subhasis Sen, Gondwana Geol. Mag., Spl.Vol.2, 1996, p. 543; Earth &#8211; the Planet Extraordinary, Subhasis Sen, Allied Press).</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Subhasis Sen</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/11/23/no-growing-earth-but-a-growing-problem-with-science-journalism/#comment-67503</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Subhasis Sen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 05:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only earth but many other planets show plenty of evidences that these are expanded objects. I am a geologist and have seriously pondered over these problems for nearly 30 years and have dealt these in details in my books &quot; Earth - the Planet Extraordinary&quot; (Allied Publishers, New Delhi, 2007) and &quot;Decoding the Solar System&quot;( AuthorHouse,U.K., 2011). Because of expansion, cracks (which with further expansion turned into mid-oceanic ridges) were developed over the crustal surface throuh which widespread outpouring of basaltic lava took place associated with extensive degassing of volatiles chiefly constituted of water resulting increse in global dimension, formation of oceans etc and due to escape of volatiles from the mantle,the mantle medium turned in to a rigid body as it stands today. Since the small globe of pre-expansion period was devoid of oceans, the ocean-forming water initially must have been associated with the mantle rendering the medium considerably fluid and suitable for expansion. The cause of expansion apears to be strong extra-trrestrial gravitational pull, possibly from the moon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only earth but many other planets show plenty of evidences that these are expanded objects. I am a geologist and have seriously pondered over these problems for nearly 30 years and have dealt these in details in my books &#8221; Earth &#8211; the Planet Extraordinary&#8221; (Allied Publishers, New Delhi, 2007) and &#8220;Decoding the Solar System&#8221;( AuthorHouse,U.K., 2011). Because of expansion, cracks (which with further expansion turned into mid-oceanic ridges) were developed over the crustal surface throuh which widespread outpouring of basaltic lava took place associated with extensive degassing of volatiles chiefly constituted of water resulting increse in global dimension, formation of oceans etc and due to escape of volatiles from the mantle,the mantle medium turned in to a rigid body as it stands today. Since the small globe of pre-expansion period was devoid of oceans, the ocean-forming water initially must have been associated with the mantle rendering the medium considerably fluid and suitable for expansion. The cause of expansion apears to be strong extra-trrestrial gravitational pull, possibly from the moon.</p>
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		<title>By: Florian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Non sense. The center mass shifts with every earthquakes. More than 10 cm, verily likely more than 20 cm during the japanese quake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non sense. The center mass shifts with every earthquakes. More than 10 cm, verily likely more than 20 cm during the japanese quake.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/11/23/no-growing-earth-but-a-growing-problem-with-science-journalism/#comment-59037</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The solid Earth is not expanding within the measurement accuracy of 0.2 mm/yr&quot;

&quot;Here, we use multiple precise geodetic data sets and a simultaneous global estimation platform to determine that the ITRF2008 origin is consistent with the mean CM at the level of 0.5 mm yr−1, and the mean radius of the Earth is not changing to within 1σ measurement uncertainty of 0.2 mm yr−1.&quot;

Citation: Wu, X., X. Collilieux, Z. Altamimi, B. L. A. Vermeersen, R. S. Gross, and I. Fukumori (2011), Accuracy of the International Terrestrial Reference Frame origin and Earth expansion, Geophys. Res. Lett., 38, L13304, doi:10.1029/2011GL047450.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The solid Earth is not expanding within the measurement accuracy of 0.2 mm/yr&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Here, we use multiple precise geodetic data sets and a simultaneous global estimation platform to determine that the ITRF2008 origin is consistent with the mean CM at the level of 0.5 mm yr−1, and the mean radius of the Earth is not changing to within 1σ measurement uncertainty of 0.2 mm yr−1.&#8221;</p>
<p>Citation: Wu, X., X. Collilieux, Z. Altamimi, B. L. A. Vermeersen, R. S. Gross, and I. Fukumori (2011), Accuracy of the International Terrestrial Reference Frame origin and Earth expansion, Geophys. Res. Lett., 38, L13304, doi:10.1029/2011GL047450.</p>
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		<title>By: tmac57</title>
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		<dc:creator>tmac57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I guess the most economical thing that I could say here is &quot;That&#039;s fantastic!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I guess the most economical thing that I could say here is &#8220;That&#8217;s fantastic!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bjarne Örn Hansen</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/11/23/no-growing-earth-but-a-growing-problem-with-science-journalism/#comment-57325</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjarne Örn Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That a meteor would hit the earth and only kill the large animals, is totally idiotic.  It does not compute.  That continets are floating, and moving in different ways, suggests different movement of the magma beneath the crust.  This also doesn&#039;t compute, that there exist circles in the magma, caused by fluctuations in the magnetic field ... ok, plausable.  But a stable iron core, does not cause different movement of the magma ... that is simply not acceptible explanation.  Before you can create a theory like that, you need to provide the mechanism ... it is not scientific to start with the theory, and then search for a mechanism to support it.  That is NOT science, plain and simple.

In the beginning there was only plasma, and we know already that the universe is neither growing nor contracting.  That space does not really exist, thus we are inside the same amount of plasma as we were in the beginning.  The creation of planets, galaxies and stars, is made from fluctuatins in the e-field of this plasma, that allows for local fields, which rotate and gather energy into materia.

So, in the beginning the stars and everything that exists, was created by things slowly entering and the stars slowly growing into form.  Plasma didn&#039;t blow up, and become matter ... and the energy that is being emitted from the sun, is what is turned into hydrogen and later helium during it&#039;s travels towards the earth.  In the beginning, none of this matter existed, and the sun is not creating them ... the earth is therefore a recipient of energy and matter, and this energy and matter is accumulative.

The energy and matter that enters the earth is turned into different matter, within the earth itself.  A common demonitator here, is we, the living organisms on this planet.  We use the energy to create molecules and matter, and use energy from the sun to do this.  The matter that we create, is larger and takes up more space, than the original one.  Every year, any man with half an eye, can see for himself how sediment is created from falling leaves.  We go and dig several feet into the earth for our forefathers lodges ... which were not burried there by time, because time is not a force, but an idea.  Space-time, is ideology, not an actual demoninator.  We use time, to show that things change ... so will we, our sun, and our planet.  None of these are constants, neither in form, position, matter or size.

The idea of tectonics is ONLY supported by the fact that mountains form.  The idea is that two plates collide, to form a rising, that makes mountains.  But there are no mechanisms, that provide such movement.  However, an expanding earth can provide precisely that mechanism ... if looked upon closer.  An outward preassure, can cause plates of different thickness, to slide sideways and even collide.

An expanding earth is also the only theory that comes up with answers, that are sufficient to explain all the missing link questions in our existance.  Why did we have to increase the day? Why did we have to adjust the calendar? How could we move stones so large, as evident, to create buildings? How could such animals grow, to such size?

The ONLY valid explanation to these questions, is a varying G force.  Any other explanation, is religious psycho babble, and hollywood fantasy.  Dreams of giant races, that enslaved mankind ... or planet X ... or god knows what.

We are living in a logical universe, where the answers lie in varying parameters, in a mathematical formula that makes up the universe we live in.  Not in Hollywood fantasy, and religious psycho babble over how god made fallen angels, that violated fair young maidens.  The answer to our history, and why people stopped making the large statues at easter island, and how people created stonehenge in England, or the pyramids at Gasa .. the answer lies in that the G force has not been constant.  This fact, should be blatantly obvious to anyone of scientific mind.

In the same way, the only plausible answer to the continents is an expanding earth.  And the only giant size object that hit the earth in the past, would be a giant comet that brought ice and water to this planet, and neither a comet nor an asteroid.  An apolyptic event, would not scrutinize between men and dynosaurs ... it would evenly kill every living thing on the planet, whatever size or form.

The evidence support it ... both historical events, human written evidence, and sediments of the earth also support it.

It is long due time, to throw away the hollywood dogma, provided by religious fanatics.  And theories, such tectonics plates that have absolutely no mechanics provided to support the theory.

As said before, to provide a theory and then search for evidence for it, and mechanisms to support ... is not science. Just because you have a lot of religious minds, that want to believe, does not make it science.  You have to have some meachinism to suggest the theory ... for tectonics, there is none.

For a growing earth ... there is plenty ... the sun is bombarding us with cosmic rays.  Cosmic rays is not &quot;nothingness&quot;, as some seem to believe ... there is no &quot;nothingness&quot; in the universe.  The space, is not a vacuum ... and nor do we float in space.  The earth is constantly being bombarded by external materia, and none of this materia can be ignored or thrown away as nothing.  That sort of activity is not science, but religion.

Saying that the energy from the sun, does not enlarge the planet ... is denying the formation of the planets to begin with.  The sun does not spit any molted lava out of it, to form planets.  Such mechanism does not exist, nor ever has existed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That a meteor would hit the earth and only kill the large animals, is totally idiotic.  It does not compute.  That continets are floating, and moving in different ways, suggests different movement of the magma beneath the crust.  This also doesn&#8217;t compute, that there exist circles in the magma, caused by fluctuations in the magnetic field &#8230; ok, plausable.  But a stable iron core, does not cause different movement of the magma &#8230; that is simply not acceptible explanation.  Before you can create a theory like that, you need to provide the mechanism &#8230; it is not scientific to start with the theory, and then search for a mechanism to support it.  That is NOT science, plain and simple.</p>
<p>In the beginning there was only plasma, and we know already that the universe is neither growing nor contracting.  That space does not really exist, thus we are inside the same amount of plasma as we were in the beginning.  The creation of planets, galaxies and stars, is made from fluctuatins in the e-field of this plasma, that allows for local fields, which rotate and gather energy into materia.</p>
<p>So, in the beginning the stars and everything that exists, was created by things slowly entering and the stars slowly growing into form.  Plasma didn&#8217;t blow up, and become matter &#8230; and the energy that is being emitted from the sun, is what is turned into hydrogen and later helium during it&#8217;s travels towards the earth.  In the beginning, none of this matter existed, and the sun is not creating them &#8230; the earth is therefore a recipient of energy and matter, and this energy and matter is accumulative.</p>
<p>The energy and matter that enters the earth is turned into different matter, within the earth itself.  A common demonitator here, is we, the living organisms on this planet.  We use the energy to create molecules and matter, and use energy from the sun to do this.  The matter that we create, is larger and takes up more space, than the original one.  Every year, any man with half an eye, can see for himself how sediment is created from falling leaves.  We go and dig several feet into the earth for our forefathers lodges &#8230; which were not burried there by time, because time is not a force, but an idea.  Space-time, is ideology, not an actual demoninator.  We use time, to show that things change &#8230; so will we, our sun, and our planet.  None of these are constants, neither in form, position, matter or size.</p>
<p>The idea of tectonics is ONLY supported by the fact that mountains form.  The idea is that two plates collide, to form a rising, that makes mountains.  But there are no mechanisms, that provide such movement.  However, an expanding earth can provide precisely that mechanism &#8230; if looked upon closer.  An outward preassure, can cause plates of different thickness, to slide sideways and even collide.</p>
<p>An expanding earth is also the only theory that comes up with answers, that are sufficient to explain all the missing link questions in our existance.  Why did we have to increase the day? Why did we have to adjust the calendar? How could we move stones so large, as evident, to create buildings? How could such animals grow, to such size?</p>
<p>The ONLY valid explanation to these questions, is a varying G force.  Any other explanation, is religious psycho babble, and hollywood fantasy.  Dreams of giant races, that enslaved mankind &#8230; or planet X &#8230; or god knows what.</p>
<p>We are living in a logical universe, where the answers lie in varying parameters, in a mathematical formula that makes up the universe we live in.  Not in Hollywood fantasy, and religious psycho babble over how god made fallen angels, that violated fair young maidens.  The answer to our history, and why people stopped making the large statues at easter island, and how people created stonehenge in England, or the pyramids at Gasa .. the answer lies in that the G force has not been constant.  This fact, should be blatantly obvious to anyone of scientific mind.</p>
<p>In the same way, the only plausible answer to the continents is an expanding earth.  And the only giant size object that hit the earth in the past, would be a giant comet that brought ice and water to this planet, and neither a comet nor an asteroid.  An apolyptic event, would not scrutinize between men and dynosaurs &#8230; it would evenly kill every living thing on the planet, whatever size or form.</p>
<p>The evidence support it &#8230; both historical events, human written evidence, and sediments of the earth also support it.</p>
<p>It is long due time, to throw away the hollywood dogma, provided by religious fanatics.  And theories, such tectonics plates that have absolutely no mechanics provided to support the theory.</p>
<p>As said before, to provide a theory and then search for evidence for it, and mechanisms to support &#8230; is not science. Just because you have a lot of religious minds, that want to believe, does not make it science.  You have to have some meachinism to suggest the theory &#8230; for tectonics, there is none.</p>
<p>For a growing earth &#8230; there is plenty &#8230; the sun is bombarding us with cosmic rays.  Cosmic rays is not &#8220;nothingness&#8221;, as some seem to believe &#8230; there is no &#8220;nothingness&#8221; in the universe.  The space, is not a vacuum &#8230; and nor do we float in space.  The earth is constantly being bombarded by external materia, and none of this materia can be ignored or thrown away as nothing.  That sort of activity is not science, but religion.</p>
<p>Saying that the energy from the sun, does not enlarge the planet &#8230; is denying the formation of the planets to begin with.  The sun does not spit any molted lava out of it, to form planets.  Such mechanism does not exist, nor ever has existed.</p>
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		<title>By: kerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 07:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well already the impossible has happened at the beginning of time,By our laws of reality. Something either came out of nothing or something had been around for ever,so i think its possible but not proven. either way does it really matter,not to mention we grow and thats possible, and the moon does move away from the earth which means one day we wont have one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well already the impossible has happened at the beginning of time,By our laws of reality. Something either came out of nothing or something had been around for ever,so i think its possible but not proven. either way does it really matter,not to mention we grow and thats possible, and the moon does move away from the earth which means one day we wont have one.</p>
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		<title>By: rickard</title>
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		<dc:creator>rickard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anybody want more info on scientific research and scientific proponents of the Growing/ Expanding earth theory you&#039;ll find it on this web site:  http://www.worldsci.org/php/index.php?tab0=Topics&amp;tab1=Expansion_Tectonics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anybody want more info on scientific research and scientific proponents of the Growing/ Expanding earth theory you&#8217;ll find it on this web site:  <a href="http://www.worldsci.org/php/index.php?tab0=Topics&#038;tab1=Expansion_Tectonics" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldsci.org/php/index.php?tab0=Topics&#038;tab1=Expansion_Tectonics</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Parrott</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/11/23/no-growing-earth-but-a-growing-problem-with-science-journalism/#comment-23807</link>
		<dc:creator>James Parrott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, could you please email me at jamesparrott76@gmail.com, I have some questions for you about growing earth. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, could you please email me at <a href="mailto:jamesparrott76@gmail.com">jamesparrott76@gmail.com</a>, I have some questions for you about growing earth. Thanks</p>
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