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		<title>By: Bim Jeam</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/09/10/who-wrote-the-majestic-12-papers/#comment-31053</link>
		<dc:creator>Bim Jeam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 17:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Majestic - Whitley Strieber  (Futura Publications.)


 get it, read it, remain open-minded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Majestic &#8211; Whitley Strieber  (Futura Publications.)</p>
<p> get it, read it, remain open-minded.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hastings</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/09/10/who-wrote-the-majestic-12-papers/#comment-14888</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hastings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Former U.S. Military Personnel to Discuss UFO Incursions at Nuclear Weapons Sites at the National Press Club

By Robert Hastings

11-15-09


Former U.S. Air Force Captain Robert Salas and UFO-Nukes Connection researcher Robert Hastings are currently organizing a press conference to be held at the National Press Club in Washington D.C. in the fall of 2010. At least a dozen former or retired U.S. military personnel who witnessed one or more UFO incursions at U.S. nuclear weapons sites will participate and discuss their experiences.

This formal announcement of the upcoming press conference has been posted a year in advance in the hope that other former/retired U.S. military personnel who have experienced UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites will come forward and support this disclosure effort, either by participating directly or by submitting a written statement relating to their encounter(s) for presentation during the event.

Salas and Hastings hope to draw worldwide media attention to the reality of UFO-initiated nuclear missile malfunctions and activations, which occurred at several U.S. Air Force bases during the Cold War era, as reported by various missile launch officers, targeting and maintenance personnel, security police, and others with knowledge of these incidents.

The situation is ongoing: Recent reports from active duty USAF personnel, as well as from civilians residing in the vicinity of nuclear missile sites, strongly suggest that UFO incursions at these facilities continue to occur. Similar reports have been received from persons living near installations at which the U.S. Navy’s nuclear missile-carrying submarines are based.

Robert Salas is the co-author (with Jim Klotz) of Faded Giant which details Salas’ involvement in a UFO-initiated mass missile shutdown at Malmstrom AFB, Montana, in March 1967. Robert Hastings is the author of UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites which summarizes his 36-year investigation of such cases. Those who wish to provide information to Salas and/or Hastings may contact them at rsalas15@roadrunner.com or hastings444@att.net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former U.S. Military Personnel to Discuss UFO Incursions at Nuclear Weapons Sites at the National Press Club</p>
<p>By Robert Hastings</p>
<p>11-15-09</p>
<p>Former U.S. Air Force Captain Robert Salas and UFO-Nukes Connection researcher Robert Hastings are currently organizing a press conference to be held at the National Press Club in Washington D.C. in the fall of 2010. At least a dozen former or retired U.S. military personnel who witnessed one or more UFO incursions at U.S. nuclear weapons sites will participate and discuss their experiences.</p>
<p>This formal announcement of the upcoming press conference has been posted a year in advance in the hope that other former/retired U.S. military personnel who have experienced UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites will come forward and support this disclosure effort, either by participating directly or by submitting a written statement relating to their encounter(s) for presentation during the event.</p>
<p>Salas and Hastings hope to draw worldwide media attention to the reality of UFO-initiated nuclear missile malfunctions and activations, which occurred at several U.S. Air Force bases during the Cold War era, as reported by various missile launch officers, targeting and maintenance personnel, security police, and others with knowledge of these incidents.</p>
<p>The situation is ongoing: Recent reports from active duty USAF personnel, as well as from civilians residing in the vicinity of nuclear missile sites, strongly suggest that UFO incursions at these facilities continue to occur. Similar reports have been received from persons living near installations at which the U.S. Navy’s nuclear missile-carrying submarines are based.</p>
<p>Robert Salas is the co-author (with Jim Klotz) of Faded Giant which details Salas’ involvement in a UFO-initiated mass missile shutdown at Malmstrom AFB, Montana, in March 1967. Robert Hastings is the author of UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites which summarizes his 36-year investigation of such cases. Those who wish to provide information to Salas and/or Hastings may contact them at <a href="mailto:rsalas15@roadrunner.com">rsalas15@roadrunner.com</a> or <a href="mailto:hastings444@att.net">hastings444@att.net</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hastings</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/09/10/who-wrote-the-majestic-12-papers/#comment-14129</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hastings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Engineer Paul Hill and Chemist Kenneth Behrendt have independently developed plausible theories regarding the UFO self-illumination phenomenon, involving the ionization of the atmosphere around them. Google their published work, if you are truly curious.
 
Re: Dunning&#039;s report, mentioned above by you, I&#039;m just not interested in solving every mysterious light-in-the-sky sighting, thank you. The number of cases involving prosaic phenomena are probably 98% of the total. So what? It&#039;s the 2% residue that will change the current paradigm. 
 
I am far more interested in the cases where radar confirms the presence of objects traveling thousands of miles per hour, which then perform instantaneous 90-degree turns or even 180-degree complete reversals of flight. Many of those cases have a visual component in that ground-based observers confirm the maneuvers. Google the July 1952 Washington D.C. sightings, or the Bentwaters sightings, as written up in my online article &quot;Beams of Light.&quot; (To name two such cases, out of hundreds now on record.)
 
In the latter case, two retired USAF air traffic controllers who were at RAF Bentwaters in the UK, in Dec. 1980, confirm tracking a UFO that traveled 120 miles in 8-12 seconds, did a right-angle turn, then hovered outside their window. It was an orange sphere. That incident occurred during the period when UFOs were sighted hovering over the base&#039;s nuclear Weapons Storage Area (WSA) according to ex-USAF Security Police I have interviewed. Their testimony also appears in the article.
 
The Bentwaters case is an excellent example of an uninformed skeptic (Dunning, as noted in an earlier post of mine on this thread) using unsubstantiated claims and flawed theories to explain away a solid UFO case. I note that he has yet to respond to my challenge, posted months ago, to address the data I have uncovered.
 
--Robert Hastings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Engineer Paul Hill and Chemist Kenneth Behrendt have independently developed plausible theories regarding the UFO self-illumination phenomenon, involving the ionization of the atmosphere around them. Google their published work, if you are truly curious.</p>
<p>Re: Dunning&#8217;s report, mentioned above by you, I&#8217;m just not interested in solving every mysterious light-in-the-sky sighting, thank you. The number of cases involving prosaic phenomena are probably 98% of the total. So what? It&#8217;s the 2% residue that will change the current paradigm. </p>
<p>I am far more interested in the cases where radar confirms the presence of objects traveling thousands of miles per hour, which then perform instantaneous 90-degree turns or even 180-degree complete reversals of flight. Many of those cases have a visual component in that ground-based observers confirm the maneuvers. Google the July 1952 Washington D.C. sightings, or the Bentwaters sightings, as written up in my online article &#8220;Beams of Light.&#8221; (To name two such cases, out of hundreds now on record.)</p>
<p>In the latter case, two retired USAF air traffic controllers who were at RAF Bentwaters in the UK, in Dec. 1980, confirm tracking a UFO that traveled 120 miles in 8-12 seconds, did a right-angle turn, then hovered outside their window. It was an orange sphere. That incident occurred during the period when UFOs were sighted hovering over the base&#8217;s nuclear Weapons Storage Area (WSA) according to ex-USAF Security Police I have interviewed. Their testimony also appears in the article.</p>
<p>The Bentwaters case is an excellent example of an uninformed skeptic (Dunning, as noted in an earlier post of mine on this thread) using unsubstantiated claims and flawed theories to explain away a solid UFO case. I note that he has yet to respond to my challenge, posted months ago, to address the data I have uncovered.</p>
<p>&#8211;Robert Hastings</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/09/10/who-wrote-the-majestic-12-papers/#comment-14126</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Messages with too many links are mistaken for spam (even though real spammers usually post many messages with few links).
Instead of posting links, like www.google.com, just say google.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Messages with too many links are mistaken for spam (even though real spammers usually post many messages with few links).<br />
Instead of posting links, like <a href="http://www.google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com</a>, just say google.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, did you follow the recent coverage of a boy who was reported missing in a flying saucer-shaped balloon?
Wonder how many UFO reports that triggered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, did you follow the recent coverage of a boy who was reported missing in a flying saucer-shaped balloon?<br />
Wonder how many UFO reports that triggered.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/09/10/who-wrote-the-majestic-12-papers/#comment-14116</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you figured out why UFOs emit light?

Your story sounds similar to Brian Dunning&#039;s encounter.
http://skepticblog.org/2009/04/16/can-you-solve-this-ufo-mystery/
&quot;Two lights, dull gray or orange, appeared in the sky instantaneously. One was above the other and slightly to the left. They wavered for perhaps five long seconds, just slowly moved side to side ever so slightly, in perfect unison. And then, before I had a chance to study them, they shot to the left, like they were launched from a sling, and were out of sight in probably half a second.&quot;

We solved the mystery. Can you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you figured out why UFOs emit light?</p>
<p>Your story sounds similar to Brian Dunning&#8217;s encounter.<br />
<a href="http://skepticblog.org/2009/04/16/can-you-solve-this-ufo-mystery/" rel="nofollow">http://skepticblog.org/2009/04/16/can-you-solve-this-ufo-mystery/</a><br />
&#8220;Two lights, dull gray or orange, appeared in the sky instantaneously. One was above the other and slightly to the left. They wavered for perhaps five long seconds, just slowly moved side to side ever so slightly, in perfect unison. And then, before I had a chance to study them, they shot to the left, like they were launched from a sling, and were out of sight in probably half a second.&#8221;</p>
<p>We solved the mystery. Can you?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hastings</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/09/10/who-wrote-the-majestic-12-papers/#comment-14112</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hastings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it seems that Devil and the other uninformed know-it-alls who pooh pooh UFOs have bailed. A wise move. Meanwhile, for those of you interested in my research into nuclear weapons-related UFO cases, inserted below is a synopsis of my interview with a former USAF Security Policeman who worked at the Nevada Test Site in the mid-1950s. Declassified U.S. government documents and military eyewitness testimony confirm ongoing UFO activity at the test site throughout that decade.

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We don&#039;t allow the cutting and pasting of multi-part full length articles into the comment section. Rather - provide a link to the article if you can.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it seems that Devil and the other uninformed know-it-alls who pooh pooh UFOs have bailed. A wise move. Meanwhile, for those of you interested in my research into nuclear weapons-related UFO cases, inserted below is a synopsis of my interview with a former USAF Security Policeman who worked at the Nevada Test Site in the mid-1950s. Declassified U.S. government documents and military eyewitness testimony confirm ongoing UFO activity at the test site throughout that decade.</p>
<p><em>Moderators note:<br />
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<p>We don&#8217;t allow the cutting and pasting of multi-part full length articles into the comment section. Rather &#8211; provide a link to the article if you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hastings</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/09/10/who-wrote-the-majestic-12-papers/#comment-13619</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hastings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unknown says: &quot;The document is 100% authentic.&quot;

Which document? The FBI memo mentioned above, or the so-called MJ-12 documents? (There are now hundreds of those.) If you are referring to the latter group, Unknown, please provide evidence to support your claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unknown says: &#8220;The document is 100% authentic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which document? The FBI memo mentioned above, or the so-called MJ-12 documents? (There are now hundreds of those.) If you are referring to the latter group, Unknown, please provide evidence to support your claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Unknown</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/09/10/who-wrote-the-majestic-12-papers/#comment-13500</link>
		<dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 05:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The document is 100% authentic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The document is 100% authentic.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hastings</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/09/10/who-wrote-the-majestic-12-papers/#comment-13338</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hastings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max wrote, &quot;Robert, you’ve certainly learned a lot about the Air Force and about CSICOP and its members, but what have you learned about UFOs? Were the ones resembling meteors in fact meteors?&quot;

I have referenced my website several times. But, given that you apparently haven&#039;t taken the hint, see:

See http://www.nicap.org/babylon/missile_incidents.htm) 

This article is a good starting point. I might also suggest my &quot;Big Sur&quot; article, also previously referenced. It may be found on my Articles page.

Regarding the FBI memo to which you alluded, the full text (which I already linked) includes the passage,

&quot;[Dr. La Paz] concluded, as a result of his investigation, that approximately half of the phenomena recorded were of meteoric origin. The other phenomena commonly referred to as green fireballs or discs he believed to be U.S. guided missiles being tested in the neighborhood of the installations.&quot;

Regarding the frequency of nukes-related UFO activity vs. that at other high-security military sites, it is impossible to *quantify* the data for a meaningful comparison, given that it has been gathered on a catch-as-catch-can basis, with my tracking down former/retired military personnel, verifying their service records, getting them to go on-the-record, etc. Indeed, it has taken me 36 years just to find and interview ~120 ex-Air Force personnel who were involved in one case or another.

In short, there are many pieces still missing from the puzzle.

--Robert Hastings
www.ufohastings.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max wrote, &#8220;Robert, you’ve certainly learned a lot about the Air Force and about CSICOP and its members, but what have you learned about UFOs? Were the ones resembling meteors in fact meteors?&#8221;</p>
<p>I have referenced my website several times. But, given that you apparently haven&#8217;t taken the hint, see:</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.nicap.org/babylon/missile_incidents.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nicap.org/babylon/missile_incidents.htm</a>) </p>
<p>This article is a good starting point. I might also suggest my &#8220;Big Sur&#8221; article, also previously referenced. It may be found on my Articles page.</p>
<p>Regarding the FBI memo to which you alluded, the full text (which I already linked) includes the passage,</p>
<p>&#8220;[Dr. La Paz] concluded, as a result of his investigation, that approximately half of the phenomena recorded were of meteoric origin. The other phenomena commonly referred to as green fireballs or discs he believed to be U.S. guided missiles being tested in the neighborhood of the installations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Regarding the frequency of nukes-related UFO activity vs. that at other high-security military sites, it is impossible to *quantify* the data for a meaningful comparison, given that it has been gathered on a catch-as-catch-can basis, with my tracking down former/retired military personnel, verifying their service records, getting them to go on-the-record, etc. Indeed, it has taken me 36 years just to find and interview ~120 ex-Air Force personnel who were involved in one case or another.</p>
<p>In short, there are many pieces still missing from the puzzle.</p>
<p>&#8211;Robert Hastings<br />
<a href="http://www.ufohastings.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ufohastings.com</a></p>
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