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		<title>By: kabol</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/tip-of-the-hat/#comment-11842</link>
		<dc:creator>kabol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>woo person: “you should go to a chiropractor for those allergies”
skeptic: “you are an idiot”

another tee shirt slogan!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woo person: “you should go to a chiropractor for those allergies”<br />
skeptic: “you are an idiot”</p>
<p>another tee shirt slogan!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: kabol</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/tip-of-the-hat/#comment-11838</link>
		<dc:creator>kabol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>give or take a typo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>give or take a typo.</p>
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		<title>By: kabol</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/tip-of-the-hat/#comment-11837</link>
		<dc:creator>kabol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And you suggest I got read “woo folk on their sites” because I don’t like the woo woo bullshit that is posted in regards to libertarianism here?&lt;/em&gt;

no, i believe i actually stated you do should muck about with them for a while so you&#039;ll come to appreciate this blog for the breath of sanity and reason that it is.  

perhaps i wasn&#039;t clear.  no, actually - what i stated looks about the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And you suggest I got read “woo folk on their sites” because I don’t like the woo woo bullshit that is posted in regards to libertarianism here?</em></p>
<p>no, i believe i actually stated you do should muck about with them for a while so you&#8217;ll come to appreciate this blog for the breath of sanity and reason that it is.  </p>
<p>perhaps i wasn&#8217;t clear.  no, actually &#8211; what i stated looks about the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuffgong</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/tip-of-the-hat/#comment-11835</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuffgong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To a certain degree, certain areas of politics and culture can be and are verified somewhat if not wholly by scientific principles, theories, findings, and ideas.

The ways systems work sociologically is indirectly or directly depending on how much you know, is a verification of why free markets work and are preferable to top-down economies.  Is it a scientific conclusion?  Hell no, but ultimately when we skeptics provide hypotheses and theories, the degree of plausibility and verifiability is important.  It&#039;s why certain political opinions make more sense or are adopted more by skeptics such as Libertarian ideas because they&#039;ve happened to fit much easier or the most with what a person has established has making sense skeptically and scientifically.

I&#039;m strongly opposed to forcing people to have no political ideas at all in the area of skepticism.  Do I prefer a more politically independent skeptic?  Sure I do, less opportunity for bias and such.  But that&#039;s highly impractically to expect, but what is much is practical to expect is self-skepticism, which is much more important in establishing when one is a skeptic and talks politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To a certain degree, certain areas of politics and culture can be and are verified somewhat if not wholly by scientific principles, theories, findings, and ideas.</p>
<p>The ways systems work sociologically is indirectly or directly depending on how much you know, is a verification of why free markets work and are preferable to top-down economies.  Is it a scientific conclusion?  Hell no, but ultimately when we skeptics provide hypotheses and theories, the degree of plausibility and verifiability is important.  It&#8217;s why certain political opinions make more sense or are adopted more by skeptics such as Libertarian ideas because they&#8217;ve happened to fit much easier or the most with what a person has established has making sense skeptically and scientifically.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m strongly opposed to forcing people to have no political ideas at all in the area of skepticism.  Do I prefer a more politically independent skeptic?  Sure I do, less opportunity for bias and such.  But that&#8217;s highly impractically to expect, but what is much is practical to expect is self-skepticism, which is much more important in establishing when one is a skeptic and talks politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuffgong</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/tip-of-the-hat/#comment-11833</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuffgong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is plausible deniability and manufacturing concern not overtly used by Anthropogenic Global Warming proponents?  I&#039;m always curious how Global Warming skeptics are brandished as holocaust deniers or simply crazy.

Skeptics aren&#039;t polarizes, they are truth seekers.  Polarizing is the field of party politics, not skeptics.

As an addendum, I would like to see skepticism associated with the idea of treating a situation as a different case.  At least to promote the idea of not painting different situations the same color and basing a conclusion on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is plausible deniability and manufacturing concern not overtly used by Anthropogenic Global Warming proponents?  I&#8217;m always curious how Global Warming skeptics are brandished as holocaust deniers or simply crazy.</p>
<p>Skeptics aren&#8217;t polarizes, they are truth seekers.  Polarizing is the field of party politics, not skeptics.</p>
<p>As an addendum, I would like to see skepticism associated with the idea of treating a situation as a different case.  At least to promote the idea of not painting different situations the same color and basing a conclusion on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/tip-of-the-hat/#comment-11759</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is libertarianism &quot;woo woo bullshit&quot;? Just because you disagree with it does not make it invalid -- it is a legitimate political position based on facts and well crafted philosophy (I am not a libertarian, btw). &quot;Woo woo&quot; is used to describe a belief system either based on no facts, or based on demonstrably untrue assumptions. Libertarianism is neither of these. Now, I know that the ideology in and of itself is not the heart of your objection, so I will address the substance of what you have to say next:

Your objection to the voicing of political ideologies in skeptical literature is something that can be discussed, but you don&#039;t get to decree that everything on this site should be entirely devoid of opinion and be scientifically provable -- these articles are written by human beings and I enjoy seeing the writers&#039; thoughts and opinions come out a bit. Not everything can be scientifically proven either, I apply the scientific method to all of my thought processes when applicable, but sometimes this is not possible, particularly in the realm of politics. For example, if we simply crunch the numbers, we might find that the most efficient way to run a society is under a totalitarian, fascist dictatorship. In this case, we need our human thoughts, feelings, and opinions to tell us that despite the loss of efficiency, democracy is a far better way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is libertarianism &#8220;woo woo bullshit&#8221;? Just because you disagree with it does not make it invalid &#8212; it is a legitimate political position based on facts and well crafted philosophy (I am not a libertarian, btw). &#8220;Woo woo&#8221; is used to describe a belief system either based on no facts, or based on demonstrably untrue assumptions. Libertarianism is neither of these. Now, I know that the ideology in and of itself is not the heart of your objection, so I will address the substance of what you have to say next:</p>
<p>Your objection to the voicing of political ideologies in skeptical literature is something that can be discussed, but you don&#8217;t get to decree that everything on this site should be entirely devoid of opinion and be scientifically provable &#8212; these articles are written by human beings and I enjoy seeing the writers&#8217; thoughts and opinions come out a bit. Not everything can be scientifically proven either, I apply the scientific method to all of my thought processes when applicable, but sometimes this is not possible, particularly in the realm of politics. For example, if we simply crunch the numbers, we might find that the most efficient way to run a society is under a totalitarian, fascist dictatorship. In this case, we need our human thoughts, feelings, and opinions to tell us that despite the loss of efficiency, democracy is a far better way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: MadScientist</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/tip-of-the-hat/#comment-11691</link>
		<dc:creator>MadScientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s a great point.  Perhaps we should start out with some fundamentals of advertising such as:

1. plausible deniability (smoking does not cause cancer)

2. manufacturing concern (vaccines cause autism)

Those are just two old, well known dirty tricks commonly used.  You see both constantly used by global warming deniers and creationists.  I wish I knew a little more about why these cheap and dirty tricks work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s a great point.  Perhaps we should start out with some fundamentals of advertising such as:</p>
<p>1. plausible deniability (smoking does not cause cancer)</p>
<p>2. manufacturing concern (vaccines cause autism)</p>
<p>Those are just two old, well known dirty tricks commonly used.  You see both constantly used by global warming deniers and creationists.  I wish I knew a little more about why these cheap and dirty tricks work.</p>
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		<title>By: MadScientist</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/tip-of-the-hat/#comment-11690</link>
		<dc:creator>MadScientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m fairly confident there will be no libertarian bias.  I can&#039;t even goad Brian and others into discussing politics.  Just don&#039;t mention any politics to you-know-who because you know there&#039;s only one political ideology worth pursuing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fairly confident there will be no libertarian bias.  I can&#8217;t even goad Brian and others into discussing politics.  Just don&#8217;t mention any politics to you-know-who because you know there&#8217;s only one political ideology worth pursuing.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian M</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/tip-of-the-hat/#comment-11684</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see direct ideas for fellow skeptics to further the movement. Things we can say to people who claim that &quot;you should go to a chiropractor for those allergies&quot;. I always just want to say &quot;you are an idiot&quot;, and walk away. Perhaps a series or episode focused on &quot;what can you do in this type of situation&quot; would be nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see direct ideas for fellow skeptics to further the movement. Things we can say to people who claim that &#8220;you should go to a chiropractor for those allergies&#8221;. I always just want to say &#8220;you are an idiot&#8221;, and walk away. Perhaps a series or episode focused on &#8220;what can you do in this type of situation&#8221; would be nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Beelzebud</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/08/25/tip-of-the-hat/#comment-11678</link>
		<dc:creator>Beelzebud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, that&#039;s GREAT to hear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, that&#8217;s GREAT to hear!</p>
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