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		<title>By: Wrong</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/07/06/the-new-journalism/#comment-66677</link>
		<dc:creator>Wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s not saying that they should &quot;Provide&quot;. He&#039;s suggesting that Journalists would do well to seek out the bloggers and ask for information, and seek their opinions. 
Sure, they may misrepresent someone. That&#039;s when you issue a retraction in their rivals newspaper and call them a douchebag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not saying that they should &#8220;Provide&#8221;. He&#8217;s suggesting that Journalists would do well to seek out the bloggers and ask for information, and seek their opinions.<br />
Sure, they may misrepresent someone. That&#8217;s when you issue a retraction in their rivals newspaper and call them a douchebag.</p>
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		<title>By: Wrong</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/07/06/the-new-journalism/#comment-66676</link>
		<dc:creator>Wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scientist does not have the role of writing his submissions to scientific journals so that the lay person can read. That&#039;s insanity. If you wanted to write it so that I could read it, that&#039;s some severe dumbing down. If you wanted it so that my stepfather could read it, it&#039;d be ten or twenty times longer and at the reading level of a 5 year old.

The job of science journalists IS the interpretation. It&#039;s their job to educate the public on science, and potentially critical thinking. Instead, you get rubbish fringe science, bunk, unreviewed studies, bigfoot, pseudoscience and &quot;5 years until the FOUNTAIN OF FUCKING YOUTH&quot;. It&#039;s meant to be the job of science journalists to act as intermediaries between (science, scientists, jargon, and journals) and the lay person. If they can&#039;t do it, then they&#039;ve failed at their only goal. And if they think that it&#039;s too difficult, then yes, they need more funding, or larger teams etc. It&#039;s not rocket science. And as Novella pointed out, a source of these teams and sources are dedicated science bloggers (Like Goldrace, or even this blog, people like Novella, Shermer and Prothero).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scientist does not have the role of writing his submissions to scientific journals so that the lay person can read. That&#8217;s insanity. If you wanted to write it so that I could read it, that&#8217;s some severe dumbing down. If you wanted it so that my stepfather could read it, it&#8217;d be ten or twenty times longer and at the reading level of a 5 year old.</p>
<p>The job of science journalists IS the interpretation. It&#8217;s their job to educate the public on science, and potentially critical thinking. Instead, you get rubbish fringe science, bunk, unreviewed studies, bigfoot, pseudoscience and &#8220;5 years until the FOUNTAIN OF FUCKING YOUTH&#8221;. It&#8217;s meant to be the job of science journalists to act as intermediaries between (science, scientists, jargon, and journals) and the lay person. If they can&#8217;t do it, then they&#8217;ve failed at their only goal. And if they think that it&#8217;s too difficult, then yes, they need more funding, or larger teams etc. It&#8217;s not rocket science. And as Novella pointed out, a source of these teams and sources are dedicated science bloggers (Like Goldrace, or even this blog, people like Novella, Shermer and Prothero).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kingsford Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/07/06/the-new-journalism/#comment-9609</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kingsford Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The resolution to this apparent conundrum is simple:
Science journalists, (and journalists in general), must learn the phrase:
&lt;em&gt;&quot;I don&#039;t know&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The resolution to this apparent conundrum is simple:<br />
Science journalists, (and journalists in general), must learn the phrase:<br />
<em>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/07/06/the-new-journalism/#comment-9541</link>
		<dc:creator>John B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. You&#039;re saying that the non-paid blogger should provide free services to the paid journalist? *wry grin* Yes, there&#039;s some benefit to be gained by the blogger if the journalist mentions them as a source - but how many do? And isn&#039;t there additionally risk to be had, if the journalist makes a mistake or has a non-obvious agenda they wish to misuse (quotemine, perhaps) the blogger&#039;s perspective to support? 

Sounds like a wonderful dilemma. I wish y&#039;all the best of luck with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. You&#8217;re saying that the non-paid blogger should provide free services to the paid journalist? *wry grin* Yes, there&#8217;s some benefit to be gained by the blogger if the journalist mentions them as a source &#8211; but how many do? And isn&#8217;t there additionally risk to be had, if the journalist makes a mistake or has a non-obvious agenda they wish to misuse (quotemine, perhaps) the blogger&#8217;s perspective to support? </p>
<p>Sounds like a wonderful dilemma. I wish y&#8217;all the best of luck with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony O'Neal</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/07/06/the-new-journalism/#comment-9522</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony O'Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys know they have a reply feature on this blog, don&#039;t you?  Just wondering...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys know they have a reply feature on this blog, don&#8217;t you?  Just wondering&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony O'Neal</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/07/06/the-new-journalism/#comment-9521</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony O'Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys do know they have a reply feature on this blog, don&#039;t you?  Just wondering...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys do know they have a reply feature on this blog, don&#8217;t you?  Just wondering&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Y.</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/07/06/the-new-journalism/#comment-9501</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Y.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree with you if the news reports didn&#039;t have the critical thinking ability of a two year old.  Take the recent news report of the dinosaur bird link being in question and compare it to the explanation given in one of the more recent SGU Podcasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree with you if the news reports didn&#8217;t have the critical thinking ability of a two year old.  Take the recent news report of the dinosaur bird link being in question and compare it to the explanation given in one of the more recent SGU Podcasts.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Fish</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/07/06/the-new-journalism/#comment-9500</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Science journalists today not only have to deal with reporting on complex science news stories, like stem cells, fMRI studies, quantum mechanics, global warming, and artificial intelligence – they also have to make sense of the anti-vaccination movement, intelligent design, free energy claims, as well as ideological think tanks and  corporate science spin. It’s challenging.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Absolutely.

And in my humble experience, if you&#039;re going to be a science writer, you have to be a specialist. You have to study the subjects you cover and devote your efforts almost exclusively to science writing in order to produce accurate pieces. This is why I like science writing. It&#039;s both very challenging and very educational.

But that brings up another issue. There are topics I won&#039;t write about in any significant capacity. Why? Because I don&#039;t know them very well and I would rather point my readers to an expert in the field then try to go it alone and end up misinforming them. I know I have a good base in physics, astronomy and evolutionary theory and these subjects are my primary focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Science journalists today not only have to deal with reporting on complex science news stories, like stem cells, fMRI studies, quantum mechanics, global warming, and artificial intelligence – they also have to make sense of the anti-vaccination movement, intelligent design, free energy claims, as well as ideological think tanks and  corporate science spin. It’s challenging.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Absolutely.</p>
<p>And in my humble experience, if you&#8217;re going to be a science writer, you have to be a specialist. You have to study the subjects you cover and devote your efforts almost exclusively to science writing in order to produce accurate pieces. This is why I like science writing. It&#8217;s both very challenging and very educational.</p>
<p>But that brings up another issue. There are topics I won&#8217;t write about in any significant capacity. Why? Because I don&#8217;t know them very well and I would rather point my readers to an expert in the field then try to go it alone and end up misinforming them. I know I have a good base in physics, astronomy and evolutionary theory and these subjects are my primary focus.</p>
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		<title>By: WaitingforGuiteau</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/07/06/the-new-journalism/#comment-9488</link>
		<dc:creator>WaitingforGuiteau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dr. T

That&#039;s the exact condescending attitude that Steve Conners complained about in his diatribe about science bloggers and scientists in general. Part of the problem is that most scientists do not go into journalism, with a few notable exceptions, and part of the problem is that the scientists themselves frequently don&#039;t know how to explain what they&#039;ve uncovered to the lay person that is covering their scientific discovery. Part of it is laziness on one end, but another part is laziness on the other, in formulating the discovery in a manner that someone who hasn&#039;t been following the cutting edge of research in artificial intelligence, or genetics, or biochemistry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dr. T</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the exact condescending attitude that Steve Conners complained about in his diatribe about science bloggers and scientists in general. Part of the problem is that most scientists do not go into journalism, with a few notable exceptions, and part of the problem is that the scientists themselves frequently don&#8217;t know how to explain what they&#8217;ve uncovered to the lay person that is covering their scientific discovery. Part of it is laziness on one end, but another part is laziness on the other, in formulating the discovery in a manner that someone who hasn&#8217;t been following the cutting edge of research in artificial intelligence, or genetics, or biochemistry.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Eisenmann</title>
		<link>http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/07/06/the-new-journalism/#comment-9482</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Eisenmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this. As an aspiring science writer, I&#039;ve found inspiration (and a dose of healthy reality) from both camps. I&#039;m just hoping enthusiasm will help me be a welcome and longterm addition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this. As an aspiring science writer, I&#8217;ve found inspiration (and a dose of healthy reality) from both camps. I&#8217;m just hoping enthusiasm will help me be a welcome and longterm addition.</p>
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