Comments on: An Apple a Day http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/06/23/apple/ The official blog of the Skeptologists Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:24:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jeffrey Weston http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/06/23/apple/#comment-9155 Jeffrey Weston Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:15:12 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=3130#comment-9155 You hit the nail on the head Amy. One reason why acupuncture appears to work is that people usually do get more face time with someone who will listen to their pain and problems. This Slate article contains a study concerning that: http://www.slate.com/id/2146483/ Regarding Jobs, he is free and clear to take whatever kind of treatments he wants. I do think that if he promotes his alternative medicine ideology or subjects his children to such "solutions" it is a danger and wrong. No different than Christian Scientists promoting their own medical hogwash. You hit the nail on the head Amy. One reason why acupuncture appears to work is that people usually do get more face time with someone who will listen to their pain and problems. This Slate article contains a study concerning that: http://www.slate.com/id/2146483/

Regarding Jobs, he is free and clear to take whatever kind of treatments he wants. I do think that if he promotes his alternative medicine ideology or subjects his children to such “solutions” it is a danger and wrong. No different than Christian Scientists promoting their own medical hogwash.

]]> By: Boredagain http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/06/23/apple/#comment-9084 Boredagain Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:12:39 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=3130#comment-9084 I Appreciate the response. If anyone is curious about understanding why people go vegetarian, outside of woo reasons; check out this interview between Richard Dawkins and Peter Singer Professor of Bioethics at the University Center for Human Values. Peter Singer is the arguably the founder of the modern animal rights movement. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYYNY2oKVWU Although hi book, Animal Liberation, would give you a fuller understanding. This interview is a nice sound bite version of the ideas behind the animal rights movement and why some would prefer not to add to unspeakable horrors of animal farming I Appreciate the response. If anyone is curious about understanding why people go vegetarian, outside of woo reasons; check out this interview between Richard Dawkins and Peter Singer Professor of Bioethics at the University Center for Human Values. Peter Singer is the arguably the founder of the modern animal rights movement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYYNY2oKVWU

Although hi book, Animal Liberation, would give you a fuller understanding. This interview is a nice sound bite version of the ideas behind the animal rights movement and why some would prefer not to add to unspeakable horrors of animal farming

]]> By: Amy http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/06/23/apple/#comment-9048 Amy Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:41:25 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=3130#comment-9048 Alternative medicine: don't knock it until you try it. I've had success with acupuncture twice in my life. Was it a crazy coincidence that my issues resolved after a few treatments? Maybe, but I'll never know. I can only believe that it helped me. At the very least, alternative healers take a lot more time to listen to their patients and evaluate them as a whole, as opposed to conventional doctors who more often than not grasp onto one symptom, make a hasty diagnosis, and prescribe a drug. In any case, I wish Jobs well. He's obviously a smart guy who's exploring all of his medical options...which is his personal business, not his company's. Alternative medicine: don’t knock it until you try it. I’ve had success with acupuncture twice in my life. Was it a crazy coincidence that my issues resolved after a few treatments? Maybe, but I’ll never know. I can only believe that it helped me. At the very least, alternative healers take a lot more time to listen to their patients and evaluate them as a whole, as opposed to conventional doctors who more often than not grasp onto one symptom, make a hasty diagnosis, and prescribe a drug. In any case, I wish Jobs well. He’s obviously a smart guy who’s exploring all of his medical options…which is his personal business, not his company’s.

]]> By: LovleAnjel http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/06/23/apple/#comment-9010 LovleAnjel Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:51:01 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=3130#comment-9010 I'm not veg myself (can't give up tasty meat), around 90% of the veggies I know are not whackaloons. The main reason tends to be that they do not like the flavor or texture of muscle, #2 is concern about shared resources. I have known only two people who didn't eat honey because it meant humans enslaved bees. I’m not veg myself (can’t give up tasty meat), around 90% of the veggies I know are not whackaloons. The main reason tends to be that they do not like the flavor or texture of muscle, #2 is concern about shared resources. I have known only two people who didn’t eat honey because it meant humans enslaved bees.

]]> By: perplexed http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/06/23/apple/#comment-8990 perplexed Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:54:23 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=3130#comment-8990 Man, between shermer's liberatarian rants, and now this huge ad for apple, its getting pretty dificult to consider this a skeptical blog. Man, between shermer’s liberatarian rants, and now this huge ad for apple, its getting pretty dificult to consider this a skeptical blog.

]]> By: Devil's Advocate http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/06/23/apple/#comment-8980 Devil's Advocate Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:12:29 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=3130#comment-8980 Huh? A blogger uses 'prescribe' instead of 'subscribe' and you toss the whole thing out? Wow, tough crowd. Let me guess - you go through your wallet and toss out the wrinkled twenties too? Huh? A blogger uses ‘prescribe’ instead of ‘subscribe’ and you toss the whole thing out? Wow, tough crowd. Let me guess – you go through your wallet and toss out the wrinkled twenties too?

]]> By: Phil Oliver http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/06/23/apple/#comment-8979 Phil Oliver Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:51:50 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=3130#comment-8979 Prescribe? [When I hear of people that prescribe..."] I was inclined to be sympathetic to your point of view, but you lost me with the first sloppy line. Prescribe? [When I hear of people that prescribe..."]

I was inclined to be sympathetic to your point of view, but you lost me with the first sloppy line.

]]> By: Phil Oliver http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/06/23/apple/#comment-8978 Phil Oliver Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:48:48 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=3130#comment-8978 Prescribe? ["When I hear of people that prescribe..."] You lost me right there, Ryan. Prescribe? ["When I hear of people that prescribe..."]

You lost me right there, Ryan.

]]> By: Boredagain http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/06/23/apple/#comment-8974 Boredagain Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:57:27 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=3130#comment-8974 Sorry, I'm just wondering if I should be offended that vegetarianism was thrown in there with the other woo like Buddhism and alternative medicine. I get the feeling that a lot of skeptics see vegetarians and vegans as pretty gullible and woo oriented. I have to say there is some truth to it, but it is a broad brush to paint people with. I've run into a lot of crazy vegetarians/vegans that were into energy, crystals, and homeopathy, but just as many of my veg friends are atheists, skeptics, and spaghetti monster worshipers. Just thought I'd drop that bit of "consciousness raising" on you while I was thinking about it. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way... I mean, I don't think that consideration for the suffering of other sentient, evolved creatures can be considered woo, can it? I'd like to hear the thoughts and maybe some shout outs from other veg people who read this site :) Sorry, I’m just wondering if I should be offended that vegetarianism was thrown in there with the other woo like Buddhism and alternative medicine. I get the feeling that a lot of skeptics see vegetarians and vegans as pretty gullible and woo oriented. I have to say there is some truth to it, but it is a broad brush to paint people with. I’ve run into a lot of crazy vegetarians/vegans that were into energy, crystals, and homeopathy, but just as many of my veg friends are atheists, skeptics, and spaghetti monster worshipers. Just thought I’d drop that bit of “consciousness raising” on you while I was thinking about it. I’m sure you didn’t mean it that way… I mean, I don’t think that consideration for the suffering of other sentient, evolved creatures can be considered woo, can it? I’d like to hear the thoughts and maybe some shout outs from other veg people who read this site :)

]]> By: Devil's Advocate http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/06/23/apple/#comment-8971 Devil's Advocate Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:40:02 +0000 http://skepticblog.org/?p=3130#comment-8971 To hell with the apostrophes, I'm still pondering "My hope that within his circle of highly talented fiends and family..." lol, j/k RE: If a corporation wants some assurances concerning risk-taking by valued employees, they can codeify them in an employment contract, and the employee, even a CEO, can accept or reject it. This is common in professional sports. I don't know, but I'm guessing LeBron James isn't supposed to do a lot of bungy jumping, shark wrassling, and isn't allowed to play army with real weapons. I'm also guessing contracts could have generic clauses that may cover the risk of poor medical care. And don't a lot of Hollywood types get the Lloyd's of London insurance on some or all of their, um, attributes? Where Dolly Parton might insure her boobs, or a famous dancer her legs, or a Brad Pitt or Phil Plait type might insure their face? To hell with the apostrophes, I’m still pondering “My hope that within his circle of highly talented fiends and family…”

lol, j/k

RE: If a corporation wants some assurances concerning risk-taking by valued employees, they can codeify them in an employment contract, and the employee, even a CEO, can accept or reject it. This is common in professional sports. I don’t know, but I’m guessing LeBron James isn’t supposed to do a lot of bungy jumping, shark wrassling, and isn’t allowed to play army with real weapons. I’m also guessing contracts could have generic clauses that may cover the risk of poor medical care. And don’t a lot of Hollywood types get the Lloyd’s of London insurance on some or all of their, um, attributes? Where Dolly Parton might insure her boobs, or a famous dancer her legs, or a Brad Pitt or Phil Plait type might insure their face?

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